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Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A
LOL... no torture doesn't work; nothing is perfect, but coercion has proven itself to work. It has already saved lives... yet folks simply close their ears and eyes and claim otherwise.
In a related vein, I was in a former Commi country where theft is the national sport... well, one of the foremen used some coercive methods to find out who was involved stealing valuable property... and it worked. With hardened criminals and nut-jobs it may take a little or a lot more coercion... but they do provide information... and if you have some already... you can leverage it to get more. It works... isolation, fear, uncomfortable circumstances... the choice between uncomfortable circumstances and comfortable circumstances...
Bush gave countless reasons to go into Iraq... and the press crapped on him for it.
CRG: Dr David Kay's Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee
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In other words... we might have been lucky.
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Obviously it makes people "talk". But, expert after expert agree that anything resulted from torture is not dependable. One of Bush's excuses to invade Iraq was info gotten from one man from torture. And it was found to be wrong. Just like every single one of all his BS reasons to invade a country that didn't do anything to us.
LOL... no torture doesn't work; nothing is perfect, but coercion has proven itself to work. It has already saved lives... yet folks simply close their ears and eyes and claim otherwise.
In a related vein, I was in a former Commi country where theft is the national sport... well, one of the foremen used some coercive methods to find out who was involved stealing valuable property... and it worked. With hardened criminals and nut-jobs it may take a little or a lot more coercion... but they do provide information... and if you have some already... you can leverage it to get more. It works... isolation, fear, uncomfortable circumstances... the choice between uncomfortable circumstances and comfortable circumstances...
Bush gave countless reasons to go into Iraq... and the press crapped on him for it.
CRG: Dr David Kay's Testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee
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All I can say is if you read the total body of intelligence in the last 12 to 15 years that flowed on Iraq, I quite frankly think it would be hard to come to a conclusion other than Iraq was a gathering, serious threat to the world with regard to WMD.
Kay: ...after 1998 it became a regime that was totally corrupt. Individuals were out for their own protection. And in a world where we know others are seeking WMD, the likelihood at some point in the future of a seller and a buyer meeting up would have made that a far more dangerous country than even we anticipated with what may turn out not to be a fully accurate estimate.
In other words... we might have been lucky.
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