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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    noted and reported. Calling people liars without reason is considered impolite
    Time and time again throughout these threads people ask you for proof to back up your assertions and you continue to fail to provide any proof. If there are so many town hall appearances with no teleprompter then you shouldn't have trouble finding one and posting it. Your posts would carry far more weight if you were willing to provide proof of your assertions, but you continued refusal makes your posts lack any credibility. Based on this, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that you are lying until you can provide proof.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    noted and reported. Calling people liars without reason is considered impolite


    reason:


    You have been caught in the past making stuff up and not backing your made up claims up.


    I did not call you a liar. I said you lied again. there is a difference.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Obama does Town Halls without a prompter all the time...even in foreign countries.

    Yea, we know he does. Here's a few for ya to chew on:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWOQA8S3i4g"]YouTube - Obama - Breathalyzer[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&feature=related"]YouTube - Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6avos-ChZfY&feature=related"]YouTube - notele[/ame]
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Once again will has been proven to be making it up as he goes along.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    noted and reported. Calling people liars without reason is considered impolite
    Then obviously you've found yourself in the midst of some of the politist folks on the planet.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    noted and reported. Calling people liars without reason is considered impolite
    Wait, are you now saying that your repeated claims about Bush lying without giving supporting evidence of these claims (read this as: calling someone a liar without reason) are just you being impolite?


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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    bad analogy

    Once you die there is no do over. You face either god, the devil, oblivion or whatever.

    If the intel is bad you just ask again.
    How do you know the intel is bad unless you check it out. Suddenly it doesn't seem to work so quick. How many times was KSM waterboarded? 183 times? Hmmm, bet that took quite a while. So they got at least 182 instances of intel that turned out to be bad and a waste of time...

    Who what where when type questions for the most part are easily verified. Thats all you really need. You ask the same questions over and over to develop a record of answer changes.
    Easily verified? Says who? How long have you worked for the CIA as a fact checker?

    It isnt cool to just complain without offering an alternative solution.
    KSM was laughing at US "interregation" backrubs and gourmet coffee until the waterboard came out and then generated actionable intel.
    Oh I didn't realize that's how it worked. Please quite the part of the story where "KSM was laughing at US "interregation" backrubs and gourmet coffee until the waterboard came out" then quote the paragraph that says, on the 183rd try we got what we needed.

    Are you upset because it succeeded or that the CIA were willing to take the PR hit at all?
    I'm upset that you are making up facts. Please quote the part that says after we waterboarded him the 183rd time he gave us the info we needed to thwart a terrorist plot and then tell us what plot that was.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Its justice department memos recently declassified. What politicians are you talking about?


    Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style Attack

    The Library Tower attack Planning allegedly began as early as October 2001.
    Not to mention that the whole "LA terrorist plot" was pretty much debunked back in 2006.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Well then Obama is Bush III, he can't speak without a teleprompter. I mean if he actually knew the subject matter, he could have ad libbed a few sentences:

    YouTube - President Obama vs Telepromter

    With that said, the whole issue of waterboarding is moot. Obama has outlawed the technique and the story has fallen off the face of the earth.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...post1058005217
    oh no, not the teleprompter obfuscation again!

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What other countries, that have engaged in military actions, have worried about their world standing at the time. Why are we the superpower? Because we can kick ass AND take names. And if those names keep our troops alive versus theirs, then I'm willing to put their troops through major discomfort. I haven't heard anyone say that anyone was maimed or killed from waterboarding. Let's ask ourselves how moral is war, and whether the morality of war matters. We have rules of war they we try to govern ourselves by, but they are really guidance because war is chaotic. Our enemy does not have any rules, except what Islam may dictate which appears to have no limits. To achieve victory, which is the entire premise of war, we must adjust to our enemy. I would only expect us to maintain the highest standard just short of risking our troops and victory, and after that we do what we have to.
    No, we're not a superpower because we can kick ass and take names.
    Waterboarding has killed and maimed people. Now you've heard it.
    I don't care how our enemy behaves because we are better than that and shouldn't sink to their level.

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