Quote:Originally Posted by Tucker Case
You seem to misunderstand, Slippery. Unlike most people, I'm actually undecided either way (read: giving pause).
Do you have conclusive evidence to suggest that it was not waterboarding that he was referring to? If so, please present it. I would love to see it.
You cannot fabricate the level of willful denial it takes to even make such arguments.
Read this to yourself 10, 20, 100 or however many times you need to understand its meaning:
Torture does not produce "RELIABLE" info.
Thank You Barack Obama for Restoring Honor To The Presidency.
President Obama will rank as one of our greatest presidents!
Quote: Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat
Am I the only one that sees the irony in many of those that scream fascism, tyranny, and socialism with every bailout, environmental protection, or social safety-net, are also some of the biggest defenders of government sanctioned torture, denial of habeas corpus, and warrantless wiretaps?
You don't trust the government to bail out a bank, but you trust them with torture? You don't trust the government to administer say, unemployment extensions, but you trust them with selectively denying habeas corpus?
You guys that defend this crap are the very enablers of tyranny and you don't even know it.
Am I the only one that sees the irony in many of those that scream about torturing terrorists are the same ones claiming Bush lied us into war, Bush is leading us to tyranny, scream Fascism regarding the NSA program, rail about Bush spending the surplus, or claim Bush is a BIG spender and how we lost the war in Iraq and mismanaged it before the job was done are also some of the biggest defenders of BIG government spending, denial of 9-11, defend abortions, defend destroying embryonic stem cells and blaming our Government of immorality and torture?
You don't trust the government to fight a war in Iraq, but you trust them with managing the economy? You don't trust the government to interrogate terrorists, but you trust them with regulating markets?
You guys that defend this crap are the very enablers of Leftist tyranny and you don't even know it.
That stated, the real irony of Southern Democrats uninformed rants is the notion that Bush’s attempts to protect Americans from terrorists in the aftermath of 9-11 are more tyrannical than Obama’s massive takeover of every facet of our economy and massive expansion of Federal Bureaucracy which wants to dictate to us what we can buy, charge us for invisible gasses in the air, dictate to us how much we can pay executives and dictate to banks who they can lend to is NOT a form of tyranny.
Silly Conservatives, logic, reality and coherent rationale mean nothing to the Democrats and Liberals using this issue as a political football.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.