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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

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    you have no idea of my service, just as we have no idea of yours, except what you claim



    so you admit once again you lied about me when you attacked my service.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Endangering lives through RECKLESS REMARKS?

    Are you high?
    If I was high, perhaps I would have forgotten "Rev's" quotes including these, in THIS thread alone:

    But some humans need to be killed.
    lets just hope that when it happens, they kill your friends and family members this time
    I call that not only reckless but irresponsible, what do you call it?

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    so you admit once again you lied about me when you attacked my service.
    do you admit you lied about my service?

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    do you admit you lied about my service?



    when and where did you serve again?
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If I was high, perhaps I would have forgotten "Rev's" quotes including these, in THIS thread alone:





    I call that not only reckless but irresponsible, what do you call it?




    care to put those comments in context or are you going to continue to spew your non stop lies?
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    care to put those comments in context or are you going to continue to spew your non stop lies?

    what is the acceptable context for wishing death upon the family of a forum member...I can't wait to hear this.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    what is the acceptable context for wishing death upon the family of a forum member...I can't wait to hear this.



    quote me and link or stop lying.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Ok seriously guys... Rev is the camo one and will is the long haired one.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    what is the acceptable context for wishing death upon the family of a forum member...I can't wait to hear this.
    When the poster in question says they'd rather see another event like the one that killed your family and friends occur than the waterboarding of people connected to the event that killed your friends and family.

    The way I read the post was not wishing death upon the poster's family so much as hoping that if said poster's wish comes true, said poster would feel the same pain that the Rev and many others felt on 9/11.

    Is it inappropriate? Probably.

    Is it understandable that one who lost family on 9/11 would feel that way after reading the post in question? Of course.

    On the point that some humans need to be killed, he was talking about terrorists. I agree on that. Some people do need to be killed. People who would kill innocent civilians while pursuing their demented causes deserve to be killed themselves.





    As far as waterboarding being torture, after reading the SERE account of it that the Rev posted I no longer have any doubts that it is in fact torture. The training they are going through is designed to prepare them for being interogated by enemies that do not adhere to geneva conventions. The questions that violate the conventions that come before the interrogations supports the idea that what follows is what they would face from an enemy that would willfully violate those conventions.

    So in essence, it seems to me that the training is designed to teach our military personnel how to respond in the face of torture. But of course, the navy does not wish to severely harm it's people, so they use a low-grade form of torture that doesn't cause the damage that other forms would.

    The fact that it is a lower-grade variant does not negate it's status as torture, IMO.

    To me, the debate on whether or not it is torture is pure semantics. The more pressing debate is whether or not torture is acceptable under certain extreme circumstances. And if some levels of torture are indeed acceptable, what level of torture is where you draw the line?

    What would be the protocols for allowing torture? Could we draw a clear line on when it is acceptable, and to what degree, based on the circumstances?

    I'm of two minds on the issue. Part of me wants to say that no degree of torture is ever acceptable, but there is another part of me that knows that if my loved one's life were directly on the line, I wouldn't hesitate to waterboard someone in order to potentially save my loved one's life. Hell, I would probably cut their legs off if that's what it took to save my loved one's life, let alone a lower grade form of torture.

    In other words, I'm undecided.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    thanks for the effort tuck. i didn't bother because of the poster involved. you are a better man than i, sir.
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