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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I do however know people who have taken SERE training.


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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Wow, you really advance this as an argument? One guy agrees to be waterboarded for entertainment and of course to help his waxing ratings and the other is a prisoner.
    Wow, you're really saying its going to be entertaining enough to watch someone go through what you call torture that you don't just want to watch it ONCE, but you want to DVR it so you can watch that person be tortured again and again and again?

    Sorry, I would assume that someone with such a distaste for torture wouldn't find it entertaining enough to watch it carried out to someone so much that they want to RECORD it for prosperity of the laughter.

    For me personally, for the things I personally actually consider torture, I can tell you without a doubt if the most obnoxious people on TV....say Rosie Odonnel....decided she'd get shoots shoved under her finger nails or would allow someone to slowly flay the skin from her I wouldn't want to watch it, nor record it, nor even find it entertaining no matter what the reason is. See, maybe I'm just weird like this, but to me things that are torture are not the kind of thing I would want to watch occur to someone no matter what the reason.

    But....obviously for you....its prime time sweeps television worthy of years of viewing pleasure.

    To each their own.

    -edit- My apologizes...somehow I managed to mix up ADK and SS. The above post was with ADK in mind, since he was the one that made the comment. Mix up on my part. -edit-

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I have been through SERE and can tell you, you are off.
    Actually you can tell me that. However, it works like this, I went through the gas chamber and the guy next to me couldn't take it while I had little problem. Maybe, as a person with a weak constitution you just had a harder time.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wow, you're really saying its going to be entertaining enough to watch someone go through what you call torture that you don't just want to watch it ONCE, but you want to DVR it so you can watch that person be tortured again and again and again?

    Sorry, I would assume that someone with such a distaste for torture wouldn't find it entertaining enough to watch it carried out to someone so much that they want to RECORD it for prosperity of the laughter.

    For me personally, for the things I personally actually consider torture, I can tell you without a doubt if the most obnoxious people on TV....say Rosie Odonnel....decided she'd get shoots shoved under her finger nails or would allow someone to slowly flay the skin from her I wouldn't want to watch it, nor record it, nor even find it entertaining no matter what the reason is. See, maybe I'm just weird like this, but to me things that are torture are not the kind of thing I would want to watch occur to someone no matter what the reason.

    But....obviously for you....its prime time sweeps television worthy of years of viewing pleasure.

    To each their own.
    Aww... look at you, are you going to cry now or after I remind you that I didn't say anything about recording it to watch over and over... Why should I care if a guy wants to wants to be tortured to improve his ratings? If he wants to shoot himself in the head with a .45 I wouldn't care either... he's a free citizen.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wow, you're really saying its going to be entertaining enough to watch someone go through what you call torture that you don't just want to watch it ONCE, but you want to DVR it so you can watch that person be tortured again and again and again?
    Absolutely!!! People like him, in trying to minimize the magnitude of just what BushCo did, are all over the media saying how this isn't torture because it doesn't cripple you, because it doesn't cause "pain". It's not illegal throughout the world for nothing.

    Well, once that coward sees just what it does feel like I'll be very interested to see how he reacts. Watch his face, how he handles it. What he says. And they should continue a second or two after he signals he's had enough.

    Undergoing it during training may be a different situation but, being waterboarded is a very real experience. It doesn't matter how sophisticated you may or may not be. It's a basic human thing. Like when you think you're drowning and your mother swims out to save you. You would climb up on top of her just to get that breath of air. Human survival instinct kicks in. We all need air. Unless trained, if we're prevented from getting it we will do anything to get it. We will say anything to get it.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Does a person actually feel physical pain when you lock them in a sealed room with a candle too high for them to reach? Nope they just die if done for too long.

    They need to fully open the files on this one and compare what confessions led to what. Wasted time. Well spent time. And self incriminating that leads/led to death penalty.
    Seeing as they have shown an example of the good it did... It would be nothing short of propaganda if they didn't show the bads.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Actually you can tell me that. However, it works like this, I went through the gas chamber and the guy next to me couldn't take it while I had little problem. Maybe, as a person with a weak constitution you just had a harder time.



    meh. from someone who never made it through SERE your peurile attacks are laughable.....
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Aww... look at you, are you going to cry now or after I remind you that I didn't say anything about recording it to watch over and over... Why should I care if a guy wants to wants to be tortured to improve his ratings? If he wants to shoot himself in the head with a .45 I wouldn't care either... he's a free citizen.
    Yes, my apologizes. Often times like your conservative counter parts in Zimmer and Truthdetector I get a bit mixed up by who was saying what when you reply to me.

    My apologizes, let me replace one hyper partisan liberal's name for another and redirect the above post to ADK who made the comment about DVRing it as the reason why I was "making that argument".

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Absolutely!!! People like him, in trying to minimize the magnitude of just what BushCo did, are all over the media saying how this isn't torture because it doesn't cripple you, because it doesn't cause "pain". It's not illegal throughout the world for nothing.

    Well, once that coward sees just what it does feel like I'll be very interested to see how he reacts. Watch his face, how he handles it. What he says. And they should continue a second or two after he signals he's had enough.
    So, for what its worth, you're looking forward to and hoping to record a man getting "tortured" in your opinion for entertainment value.

    For each their own, as I said.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    it is funny how he is against terrorists being "tortured" but is for hannity getting "tortured"
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