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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Even the trainers will tell you that the waterbaording done in training is nothing like what really happens.
    Exact-a-mundo!

    Training has a purpose: to expose soldiers to what might be done to them if they're ever captured. They know it won't go too far.

    Torture's purpose: to extract infomation. Victim doesn't know how far it will go and thus, will at some point say "something".


    The experts also agree that torture is not the way to get reliable information. Think about it. If you're tortured, and you don't know what they're trying to get, you'll say anything to make them stop. How reliable is that?


    Hey, I saw last night that that idiot, Sean Hannity, agreed to be water boarded for charity. If he doesn't take the coward's way out, which I expect, THAT would be a DVR moment.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Exact-a-mundo!

    Training has a purpose: to expose soldiers to what might be done to them if they're ever captured. They know it won't go too far.

    Torture's purpose: to extract infomation. Victim doesn't know how far it will go and thus, will at some point say "something".


    The experts also agree that torture is not the way to get reliable information. Think about it. If you're tortured, and you don't know what they're trying to get, you'll say anything to make them stop. How reliable is that?

    Why would they waterboard if it does not work?


    And when did you go to SERE school again?

    Hey, I saw last night that that idiot, Sean Hannity, agreed to be water boarded for charity. If he doesn't take the coward's way out, which I expect, THAT would be a DVR moment.

    why would it be exactly?
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Well because obviously if a guy you think is a prick and you disagree with is agreeing to do something to actually help people that is "torture" its going to be an entertaining thing worthy of multiple repeat viewing by you.

    However, if its done to someone that is 100% known to have been involved with terrorism and is done in hopes of getting information that can be used to stop further terrorism, it is a horrible crime against humanity that needs to have dozens of people executed or put in prison for life for.

    Come on Rev, how could you not know that.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well because obviously if a guy you think is a prick and you disagree with is agreeing to do something to actually help people that is going to be uncomfortable its going to be an entertaining thing worthy of multiple repeat viewing.

    However, if its done to someone that is 100% known to have been involved with terrorism and is done in hopes of getting information that can be used to stop further terrorism, it is a horrible crime against humanity that needs to have dozens of people executed or put in prison for life for.

    Come on Rev, how could you not know that.



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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Why would they waterboard if it does not work?
    So they could say that Mr. Terrorist said something that supports their agenda. Why did they water board that psychotic what, 183 times? Probably because they got nothing the first 182 times!

    And when did you go to SERE school again?
    Why would that matter? Please don't tell me you're going to use that empty argument that if someone hasn't experienced it that they can't talk about it.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Why would they waterboard if it does not work?
    Half the **** the government does doesn't work and they keep doing it. Who the hell knows why they do most of the stuff they do

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    And when did you go to SERE school again?
    Can you basically tap out in training? Was it done to you multiple times a day for months?

    In the end, we prosecuted the Japanese under war crimes in the '40's for exactly this reason. So either its torture, or we unfairly prosecuted some of the Japanese government.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can you basically tap out in training? Was it done to you multiple times a day for months?.
    How do you mean multiple times a day for months? Like multiple times every day?

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can you basically tap out in training?
    You can stop it at ANY time!

    It's TRAINING, not real life. And it's a far cry from TORTURE.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Like multiple times every day?
    Yes, over a long time span.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Can you basically tap out in training? Was it done to you multiple times a day for months?
    read:

    This is from a guy who went through the NAVY SERE school. my experience was similar.

    Waterboarding: A SERE-ing Experience for Tens of Thousands of US Military Personnel - HUMAN EVENTS

    In the end, we prosecuted the Japanese under war crimes in the '40's for exactly this reason. So either its torture, or we unfairly prosecuted some of the Japanese government.

    who knows. I don't have a way back machine so I don't care.
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