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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Well this is great to hear. lets just hope that when it happens, they kill your friends and family members this time, instead of mine. Then lets see you exaggerated claims about rights and moral standings.
    I guess that's the difference between you and I. I'm a patriot.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    If torture works so well why didn't we torture Saddam to find out where the WMDs were?
    Torture is but one tool; we weren't pressed for time, and we had our guy in there befriending Saddam.

    This isn't always possible.
    Sometime torture may be necessary... just like war... which is the ultimate torture... No?

    Bombings at odd and all hours, overwhelming force, serious injury, blasting noise to deprive the enemy of sleep... and as this is torturous... Our Dear Capitulator should simply BAN war.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Excuse me, I was in the Marines and my son is currently in the Marines. We do not train our military in the use of waterboarding nor do we "prepare" our military to survive capture by waterboarding them.
    Waterboarding: A SERE-ing Experience for Tens of Thousands of US Military Personnel - HUMAN EVENTS

    Hmmm... I call you liar sir.

    JPRA’s description of the waterboarding technique provided in that first attachment was inconsistent in key respects from the U.S. Navy SERE school’s description of waterboarding. According to the Navy SERE school’s operating instructions, for example, while administering the technique, the Navy limited the amount of water poured on a student’s face to two pints. However, the JPRA attachment said that “up to 1.5 gallons of water” may be poured onto a “subject’s face.” While the Navy’s operating instructions dictated that “[n]o effort will be made to direct the stream of water into the student’s nostrils or mouth,” the description provided by JPRA contained no such limitation for subjects of the technique. While the Navy limited the use of the cloth on a student’s face to twenty seconds, the JPRA’s description said only that the cloth should remain in place for a “short period of time.” And while the Navy restricted anyone from placing pressure on the chest or stomach during the administration of this technique, JPRA’s description included no such limitation for subjects of the technique.
    http://www.victoriousopposition.com/...justify-the-m/

    Taht blog is crap, but it does show you to be full of ****.
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I guess that's the difference between you and I. I'm a patriot.
    Because you pay lots of taxes.
    Isn't that the Lib definition of Patriot?

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I bring this up all the time, I was waterboarded in SERE school, and I am mentally ok.
    I'd say it turned you into an authoritarian, rightwing tool.

    Not to mention SERE training is vastly different than being an actual prisoner being tortured. There is a large staff to ensure your safety and you know it. Even the trainers will tell you that the waterbaording done in training is nothing like what really happens.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I guess that's the difference between you and I. I'm a patriot.
    That's not a difference. So's the Reverend.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Not to mention SERE training is vastly different than being an actual prisoner being tortured. There is a large staff to ensure your safety and you know it. Even the trainers will tell you that the waterbaording done in training is nothing like what really happens.
    Given that by your own admission you have not experienced waterboarding, this statement is beyond your competence to make.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Put them on the spot, say.. family members held hostage somewhere with a deadline, and give them one bad guy with the info to save their families...

    They'd be waterboarding, knee capping and breaking fingers too.
    You're probably right there, just as if you put a guy on the streets with his family and he had a choice between killing someone for food or letting his family starve, he would most likely kill a man.

    That, however, doesn't make the choice right which is the point.

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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I guess that's the difference between you and I. I'm a patriot.







    right.....
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    Re: CIA Confirms: Waterboarding 9/11 Mastermind Led to Info that Aborted 9/11-Style A

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I'd say it turned you into an authoritarian, rightwing tool.

    Uhm I am the opposite of authoritarian. Show some integrity brother.



    Not to mention SERE training is vastly different than being an actual prisoner being tortured. There is a large staff to ensure your safety and you know it.
    So there is no "large staff" with these prisoners? is "simulated drowning" really different because of who we are? I don't get your point.


    Even the trainers will tell you that the waterbaording done in training is nothing like what really happens.
    Reall? Link please.
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