I am always amused how people can conveniently use 9/11 to promote their authoritarian, barbaric and fear mongering ideals. But I am stunned how they can pretend that sacrificing our morals will stop a terrorist from performing an act of terrorism. One thing we know 100% is that it is indeed a sacrifice of our morals. Fear mongering won't prevent an attack either.
CNSNews.com - Obama Bans Waterboarding Terrorists, But Pentagon Won't Say If It Still Waterboards Military Trainees
There are numerous other sources indicating some of our warriors do undergo such training. 100% understandable.An August 2002 memo on CIA interrogation tactics used on some captured al Qaeda terrorists said the “same techniques" continued to be used on some U.S. military personnel during SERE training.
Other techniques included slapping, dietary limitations, sleep deprivation and confinement in small rooms. Critics of the interrogation techniques, including President Barack Obama, have called such techniques torture.
“The mission [of SERE] is to train military members to survive an isolation event,” said Kathleen Jabs, spokeswoman for the U.S. Joint Forces Command, the division of the Defense Department that oversees the SERE program. “It could be a full range of things.”
When asked whether the training techniques have changed to eliminate waterboarding since the 2002 memo was written, Jabs told CNSNews.com: “The training model they use, they base on scientific research and sound training principles. You have to adequately prepare military personnel for what could happen if they are captured.”
What is not understandable or rational is Obama.
Last edited by zimmer; 04-23-09 at 11:43 AM.
I AM DEPLORABLE.
NEVER CRIMINAL HILLARY (S-NY)
Because most of us will never EVER be in a position to make the call or have to hurt someone to save others lives.
I used a simple example of how when it's personal, their views would change. Are you saying you'd let say your parents, wife, children die at the hands of terrorist if you ever found yourself in such a situation?
Be honest here, you know you'd do what you needed to do to save them.
Why is it okay to save your family, but not okay to save others?
And that's what the point was being drawn too. You went off on "that's an unreal situation!" because you wont' answer the question.
Bad for the government to save lives through waterboarding.
Okay for you to break a kneecap to save your family.
Gotta love it.
⚧ C.T.L.W. You figure it out
My Endo doc went over my blood work. "I see your estrogen level is now at 315, do you feel like you have too much Estrogen now?"
I told her "... N... N.. No..." and started crying.