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    Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

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    Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government
    By Haaretz Staff and News Agencies

    Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Sunday branded Israel a "racist government," seemingly living up to concerns that the United Nations conference on racism which he was addressing would turn into a forum to vilify the Jewish state.

    The comments sparked a mass walk-out of the conference hall by Western delegates to the summit.

    Ahmadinejad accused Israel of "being the most cruel and racist regime," sparking a walkout by angry Western diplomats at the conference and protests from others.

    In a rambling speech, Ahmadinejad on Monday pointed the finger at the United States, Europe and Israel and said they were "destabilizing the entire world."

    Some European diplomats immediately walked out of the room when Ahmadinejad said Israel was "created on the pretext of Jewish suffering from World War II."

    A wigged protester shouting "Racist! racist!" threw a soft red object at
    Ahmadinejad, hitting the podium and interrupting his speech.

    Ahmadinejad's speech came as Israel prepared to mark its own Holocaust Remembrance Day. The Iranian leader has repeatedly claimed the Holocaust never happened and has called repeatedly for Israel's destruction.
    Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government - Haaretz - Israel News

    By stopping just short of outright threatening Israel Ahmadinejad can plead innocence, saying he has never DIRECTLY threatened them. Yet he can rouse the anti-Israeli fervor in the M.E. and possibly goad the Israelis or the West into attacking Iran first out of existential fear.

    I like the imagery of a wigged protester throwing a red nerf ball (or whatever it might have been) at Ahmadinejad and crying out, "racist! racist!". But how can Israel be called racist if they allow Muslims and Arabs the vote and to serve in government and to do business???
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    I thought he said Israel should be wiped off the map. That's not a threat? Also I believe there are Arabs living in peace in Israel today. How many jews live in Iran?
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    Good walk out by many of the Western nations at Durban. It is unfortunate that the West is going to let Israel go it alone against Iran. When that balloon goes up the west will still find a way yo blame Israel, heck, Obama may even side with Iran. When will that war come? Later this year I think, or early 2010. The West just cannot learn that you can't talk with bullies, whether they are Nazis, Commies or Islamofascists. Bullies only understand one thing, a punch in the nose. Learned that in grade school.

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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    If this is the case, seems like a smart political move. Iran looks at Israel as a rogue nation anyway. This way they can't blame the West for an attack.
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How many jews live in Iran?
    Iran i believe holds the 2nd most Jews in ME.

    Quote Originally Posted by ch85books View Post
    It is unfortunate that the West is going to let Israel go it alone against Iran.
    In a recession, why start another war? Don't expect countries in debt to be helping you
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    Thanks, apparently they are third, the US is second.
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Thanks, apparently they are third, the US is second.
    In the world, i just said ME =P

    But i take your point.
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    I thought he said Israel should be wiped off the map.
    This was a mistranslation that has been used by many people as propaganda against Ahmedinejad and the Iranian administration. I contacted Juan Cole, who is a prominent Middle Eastern historian and speaks Farsi, and this was his response:

    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Cole
    The speech in Persian is here:

    Sorry that I misremembered the exact phrase Ahmadinejad had used. He made an analogy to Khomeini's determination and success in getting rid of the Shah's government, which Khomeini had said "must go" (az bain bayad berad). Then Ahmadinejad defined Zionism not as an Arabi-Israeli national struggle but as a Western plot to divide the world of Islam with Israel as the pivot of this plan.

    The phrase he then used as I read it is "The Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] from the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)."

    Ahmadinejad was not making a threat, he was quoting a saying of Khomeini and urging that pro-Palestinian activists in Iran not give up hope-- that the occupation of Jerusalem was no more a continued inevitability than had been the hegemony of the Shah's government.

    Whatever this quotation from a decades-old speech of Khomeini may have meant, Ahmadinejad did not say that "Israel must be wiped off the map" with the implication that phrase has of Nazi-style extermination of a people. He said that the occupation regime over Jerusalem must be erased from the page of time.

    Again, Ariel Sharon erased the occupation regime over Gaza from the page of time.

    I should again underline that I personally despise everything Ahmadinejad stands for, not to mention the odious Khomeini, who had personal friends of mine killed so thoroughly that we have never recovered their bodies. Nor do I agree that the Israelis have no legitimate claim on any part of Jerusalem. And, I am not exactly a pacifist but have a strong preference for peaceful social activism over violence, so needless to say I condemn the sort of terror attacks against innocent civilians (including Arab Israelis) that we saw last week. I have not seen any credible evidence, however, that such attacks are the doing of Ahmadinejad, and in my view they are mainly the result of the expropriation and displacement of the long-suffering Palestinian people.

    It is not realistic for Americans to call for Iran to talk directly to the Israeli government (though in the 1980s the Khomeinists did a lot of business with Israel) when the US government won't talk directly to the Iranians about most bilateral issues. In fact, an American willingness to engage in direct talks might well pave the way to an eventual settlement of these outstanding issues.

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    I have also asked friends that I know that speak Farsi, some who still have family in Iran, and they have confirmed Cole's translation.

    How many jews live in Iran?
    There is a significant Jewish population living in Iran.

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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    Apparently he was the only head of state left after his misunderstood translation of Farsi

    Here are some comments about the misunderstood Persian Nazi Ahmademonjihad.

    "Such outrageous anti-Semitic remarks should have no place in a U.N. anti-racism forum," said British ambassador Peter Gooderham

    Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store told the conference after Ahmadinejad had spoken that his words amounted to incitement to hatred. He said Iran had made itself the odd man out by undermining agreement on a conference declaration.

    "Norway will not accept that the odd man out hijacks the collective efforts of the many,"

    Rupert Colville, spokesman for Navi Pillay, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights who convened the meeting, said she deplored the language used by Ahmadinejad.

    "This speech was completely inappropriate at a conference designed to nurture diversity and tolerance," she said.

    Many racist Arab and muslim nations representitives at the conference stood up and appladed the Iranian leader.

    Its pretty obvious that the free world will not stand for racist rhetoric from a theocratic hater like Ahmadinejad.

    Why is it that everytime a muslim religious or political leader says something hateful in his own language the defenders of hate say it was misinterpreted in the translation or its propaganda from the zionist regime? Well you know what most critical thinking honest people are not buying the lies.
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    Re: Ahmadinejad at Durban II: Israel is racist government

    He is partly right, just that the way he delivers the message sucks and other comments he makes triumphs over the hard cold truth. Of course Israel will use the get of jail free card each time..aka the damn jew hater or anti Semitic card. More of the same... nothing new, hardly breaking news.
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