"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
HA! If anything they'd love a war. More arms purchases and cheaper oil. They'd only do enough to ensure Iran didn't become a puppet gov't that oppossed them.Second, They would involve themselves to protect the HUGE profits they earn from arms sells and to protect their oil imports.
china and russia don't give two ****s about Israel on way or the other except as a political chess piece. Israel poses zero threat to them.And also to defeat the only real Middle Eastern US ally.
mine comes from CIA assesment. Where did you get your magic numbers?Third, check your stats. They are inaccurate. The IDF does not support such large troop numbers.
according to who? You may want to talk to a few of our members here who were part of the IDF. I think you are simply flat out making **** up to support your argument now. Are you a liar? Prove it then.And much of what they do support (excluding the Israeli Army, Israeli Air Force and Israeli Sea Corps) are poorly train troops, barely above militia grade.
goodluck getting that many people transported. Even modern day european militaries can hardly extend their influence beyond their borders in any significant numbers. Its a tactical and logistical nightmare.Though granted Iran has much of the same problem, they have more of these troops. How can Israel overcome 11 million Basij? They cannot.
War does ensure cheaper prices and more sales. BUT if Iran should fall, the profits they make on weapons would severly drop.
my stats come from Globalsecurity.org
and sorry to rain on your nationalistic parade but the United States is largely sucessful in this. Proved by the fact that their only significant military defeat in their history was Veitnam.
And you said yourself Israel has nukes. This makes them a threat. As does "their well-train air force the IAF".
also i wouldnt make stuff up.
if i believed myself to be defeated in this argument i would admit it.
Israel would likely not invade. Iran would only fall from social revolt.War does ensure cheaper prices and more sales. BUT if Iran should fall, the profits they make on weapons would severly drop.
Link to it.my stats come from Globalsecurity.org
Mine: google cia factbook israel
(I can't link cuz I'm posting by phone)
what are you responding to?and sorry to rain on your nationalistic parade but the United States is largely sucessful in this. Proved by the fact that their only significant military defeat in their history was Veitnam.
So that means Russia and China will attack Israel if Israel gets into a fight with Iran? wow, your arguments are getting more and morw speculative with less and less substantiation.And you said yourself Israel has nukes. This makes them a threat. As does "their well-train air force the IAF".
I'm curious why no one has brought up that a preemptive strike on Iran by Israel, would not only bring Iran into war against Israel, but all the other insurgent factions who are constantly firing rockets into Israel.
You'd have Hezbollah, Hamas, Radical Fatah militants, Islamic Jihad militants, etc. all in close proximity to Israel that would create more damage to it from multiple fronts, instead of just from one with Iran.
Both sides are over and underestimating each other side, with no accountablitiy of relevant circumstances.
And don't even get me started on how many other countries will be pressured to do 'something' to secure 'national interests' when Iran begins to mobilize in the Strait of Hormuz.