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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Probably. But Iran does have a much more capable air force and air defense network then Iraq did back in the 80s. I really don't see how Israel can pull this off without nuclear strikes from its Dolphins.
    Really? What are they capable of? What have they done lately to make you think they have a prayer against a well honed air force like the IAF?
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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    Is this either of these wars?
    no but it further damages your argument.

    Sadly, no. Israel is no great and powerful military country that can simply defeat a superior force. A preemptive strike by Israel would bring the wrath of Iran and the several powers which strongly support its goal of achieving nuclear power. Most notably China and Russia. And, to a lesser extent, North Korea.
    just like the soviet union intervened during the yom kippur and the 6 day war? China and russia would only intevene for damn good reasoning and an iranian war is not a compelling reason. Why would they involve themselves? Iran is merely a consumer for them.

    With just under 600,000 soliders, Israel is outnumbered (assuming Iran mobilizes 1 million troops) 4 to 1. (If they mobilize the entire Basij then it becomes 11 million and Israel stands absolutely no chance.
    israel has a military and a militarily trained civilian force of over 3 million. You never heard of the IDF?

    Not to mention nuclear weapons.
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    fyi Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Really? What are they capable of? What have they done lately to make you think they have a prayer against a well honed air force like the IAF?
    They dont need a powerful Air Force. There Infantry force alone and AA weapons could effectively destroy Israel.
    And if they needed aid in defeating the IAF their allies (before stated, see previous page) would gladly do so to defeat the only real Western ally in the Middle East. (with the exception of Iraq, which is commonly considered more of an American Protectorate State.)

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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    Is this either of these wars?
    Sadly, no. Israel is no great and powerful military country that can simply defeat a superior force. A preemptive strike by Israel would bring the wrath of Iran and the several powers which strongly support its goal of achieving nuclear power. Most notably China and Russia. And, to a lesser extent, North Korea.

    With just under 600,000 soliders, Israel is outnumbered (assuming Iran mobilizes 1 million troops) 4 to 1. (If they mobilize the entire Basij then it becomes 11 million and Israel stands absolutely no chance.
    You make great assumptions again. Do you have any idea what it would take to mobilized 1 million troops, or even 500,000? I bet you don't. Israel already has tactical nukes. Iran would have to cross Iraq to get there, I'll bet you there's a no-fly zone in that area. Not even Obama would allow Israel to be turned to ashes. When the last time you saw Iran fight anyone in a war?
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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    no but it further damages your argument.

    just like the soviet union intervened during the yom kippur and the 6 day war? China and russia would only intevene for damn good reasoning and an iranian war is not a compelling reason. Why would they involve themselves? Iran is merely a consumer for them.

    israel has a military and a militarily trained civilian force of over 3 million. You never heard of the IDF?

    Not to mention nuclear weapons.
    To your fisrt point. It does not damage my argument. The past (especially the distant past) has no bearig on present strength.

    Second, They would involve themselves to protect the HUGE profits they earn from arms sells and to protect their oil imports. And also to defeat the only real Middle Eastern US ally.

    Third, check your stats. They are inaccurate. The IDF does not support such large troop numbers. And much of what they do support (excluding the Israeli Army, Israeli Air Force and Israeli Sea Corps) are poorly train troops, barely above militia grade. Though granted Iran has much of the same problem, they have more of these troops. How can Israel overcome 11 million Basij? They cannot.

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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxientius View Post
    To your fisrt point. It does not damage my argument. The past (especially the distant past) has no bearig on present strength.

    Second, They would involve themselves to protect the HUGE profits they earn from arms sells and to protect their oil imports. And also to defeat the only real Middle Eastern US ally.

    Third, check your stats. They are inaccurate. The IDF does not support such large troop numbers. And much of what they do support (excluding the Israeli Army, Israeli Air Force and Israeli Sea Corps) are poorly train troops, barely above militia grade. Though granted Iran has much of the same problem, they have more of these troops. How can Israel overcome 11 million Basij? They cannot.
    Don't be ridiculous, they can't bring an 11 million man army.
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    fyi Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You make great assumptions again. Do you have any idea what it would take to mobilized 1 million troops, or even 500,000? I bet you don't. Israel already has tactical nukes. Iran would have to cross Iraq to get there, I'll bet you there's a no-fly zone in that area. Not even Obama would allow Israel to be turned to ashes. When the last time you saw Iran fight anyone in a war?
    Obama would to protect his image of a non-warring President.
    And im not saying they would deploy at once or even in a month but Iran would retailiate in force. They would war with Israel and the US over the loss of their ability to reach nuclear status.
    An it has been about 2 centuries since Iran's last war.

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    Caution Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Don't be ridiculous, they can't bring an 11 million man army.
    again u take what i say out of context. They would gladly draw up these forces over time to strike back. You severly underestimate them.
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    fyi Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    Not to mention nuclear weapons.
    haha you've lost it.
    Israel would NEVER nuke Iran.

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    Re: Israel stands ready to bomb Iran's nuclear sites

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Where has Iran said they would nuke Israel first?
    Iran threatens Israel at virtually every public speaking event.

    That being said. More recently they threatened each other.

    "Should Israel take any action against Iran, we will eliminate Israel from the scene of the universe," Gen. Muhammad Reza Ashtiani said in Teheran on Tuesday.

    Ashtiani's statement followed Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer's comment last week warning Iran that any attack on Israel would result in the "destruction of the Iranian nation."
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