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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You still won't answer the questions. Thanks for playing.
    I did answer the question. I said it was a bit excessive I also doubt your anecdotal story about having to bring HAZMAT in.

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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I did answer the question. I said it was a bit excessive I also doubt your anecdotal story about having to bring HAZMAT in.
    Okay. Doubt away.

    You had to call the FD, they sent in a guy with a resperator and special vacuum. And we all laughed about it, but rules be rules man.
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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    The enviroloons, it's always one hair brained scheme after another.
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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's absolutely incredible that they are planning law to stop industry from polluting!!! Damn them, there's nothing I enjoy more than to inhale other's toxins, and I can't believe they are thinking of taking that right away from me!!!
    I think it is funny that you and others think it is about pollution and not political power to generate more revenues.

    I am always amused by rabid environmentalist arguments to reduce pollution when it could be done by simply stopping ALL production. This is what I find so disingenuous about the "environmental green" radicals; this isn't about making everyone safer; this is about an agenda to force all nations back to the dark ages.

    I just wish they could be honest and make the following statement: “We demand that all factories be closed and that NO amount of pollution regardless of those who will starve, die and cease to exist as a result. The planet is more important than human life.”

    Carry on.

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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    This thread started out strong, but then it turned into a conspiracy theory and an interpretation that Government will regulate turning off and on switches.

    I think Nixon had the right argument, that there should not be the language of the economy and price applied to human health and well-being.

    from the article:
    ""Even if you believe that man-made gases are causing global warming, does it make any sense us to unilaterally tax ourselves when all that will do is send our manufacturing jobs to areas where they don't have any emissions standards like China and Mexico?" Inhofe asked."

    Does Inhofe realize that the answer to his conundrum could very well be Government regulation?
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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    from the article:
    ""Even if you believe that man-made gases are causing global warming, does it make any sense us to unilaterally tax ourselves when all that will do is send our manufacturing jobs to areas where they don't have any emissions standards like China and Mexico?" Inhofe asked."

    Does Inhofe realize that the answer to his conundrum could very well be Government regulation?
    So you live in the fantasy that if, as Inholfe correctly argues, these rules force factories to close here and shift to other nations who do not share the same concerns of pollution, that Government can regulate them to stay here? It happens to be GOVERNMENT regulation that is driving them all away.

    Assume for a minute we use trade sanctions and enforce the notion that Factories based in the US cannot re-locate, do you think they will operate here at a loss?

    What is inane and absurd is the notion that Government can make us all prosperous safe and happy. But that appears to be the weak mental state of the Western world today; that Government is the answer to all our needs.

    When the factories close, will the Government re-open them and use tax payer dollars to pay to operate them at a loss until all our money runs out? That would be the better question.

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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    April 17 (Bloomberg) -- House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman said he won’t compromise on his proposed 20 percent reduction in greenhouse gases over the next decade in the face of criticism from lawmakers who say the economy could suffer.

    “I want to keep those caps in place,” Waxman said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt” airing this weekend. “It’s what the scientists are telling us we must do” to avoid a global catastrophe, he said.

    Waxman, a California Democrat, said he would be willing to give ground in other areas of the measure, which comes up for its opening round of debate in Congress next week.

    The four days of subcommittee hearings will follow the Environmental Protection Agency’s ruling today that greenhouse gases pose a danger to the public, a finding that opens the way for new U.S. regulation of cars, power plants and factories.

    Waxman, 69, said he expects his climate bill, as well as health-care reform legislation, to clear the House before August.
    Waxman Won?t Compromise on 20% Carbon Cap in Climate Measure - Bloomberg.com
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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Waxman is one of the most despicable ingrates California has sent to Congress. Isn't it telling that the most offensive morons infesting Congress come from the State of California, New York and even now Florida?

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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Okay. Doubt away.

    You had to call the FD, they sent in a guy with a resperator and special vacuum. And we all laughed about it, but rules be rules man.
    Okay fine then I guess you would have no problem providing a link to back up your story.

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    Re: EPA Takes First Step Toward Regulating Pollution Linked to Climate Change

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine then I guess you would have no problem providing a link to back up your story.
    I really don't care whether you believe me or not, and I'm not gonna waste time with this any further.


    And you still avoid the 3 questions I posed earlier. Amazing, should I repeat them?
    CO2, labeled a pollutant and regulated by the EPA...

    What does it mean, will it effect your life and how? To what end? What is the cost?

    And the above, go ahead, you MG and the others whose initial reaction is "So what it's pollution!?"
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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