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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Yeah, but seriously, do we really want to discuss this point? Seriously, her responses to some of the questions in that interview were less than impressive.
    No...they were simple and straightforward and made a fatal mistake: expecting her detractors to give it some thought and think about the implications rather than turning completely juvenile and deranged with their criticism.

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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I don't know and furthermore it's irrelevant. If you are going to participate you don't get the benefit of reframing the argument. That argument is about the media falsifying statements she made or blowing them out of proportion.
    They have falsified her statements. Do you really believe the left wing posters here ALL watch SNL? Where did they hear it from?

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    That took 30 seconds, on my deck, with a Cohiba siglo IV hanging from my mouth, watching the BGE get to 800 degrees so I can cook a prime steak.

    Fact, Tina fey said it, the msnbc, cnn pundits ran with it. It was a lie, that never was adequately corrected. DP members ran with it.


    Well by all means get on your research pony and ride. Again, it's irrelevant, but if you think you can find anyplace I've seriously argued Palin was guilty of saying she could see Russia from her porch, please revive the thread in question.

    I'll dig it all up later. you are seriously arguing that no left winger here really believed that is what she said? Come now.... I'd hate for the partisan police to come call you out!





    Yet here we are, in a dumb thread, discussing dumb things.


    yes we are, I have no problem with it. We can discuss it all day long.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Well gee Rev, I think we have already done that numerous times in numerous threads. This one is about Palin.



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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    If people didn't talk about this, the media wouldn't cover it.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They have falsified her statements. Do you really believe the left wing posters here ALL watch SNL? Where did they hear it from?
    And I already stated that I don't care about what left wing posters here stated. You're moving the goal posts. I made it very clear what I was asking for...
    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'm talking about issues the MSM grabbed and proliferated. To my knowledge I didn't see MSNBC or CBS claiming Palin said she could see Russia from her front porch.
    Well you wasted that effort and didn't prove a thing. Blogs, obscure internet op ed pieces, online diary entries, and Huffington Post are not the MSM.

    Fact, Tina fey said it,
    Right, that's what SNL does, we've already established that and it's irrelevant to the argument that the MSM falsified or blew it out of proportion.

    the msnbc, cnn pundits ran with it.
    Okay, they ran with the political humor side of it, or they actually presented what Tine Fey said as something Sarah Palin actually said. Please clarify and substantiate.

    It was a lie, that never was adequately corrected.
    What was a lie? A political satire skit on SNL? Whoooaa!!!! Again, and correct me if I'm wrong, but SNL isn't what I would call a reliable news source. It's a comedy show.

    DP members ran with it.
    Big deal. You seen our CT forum? DP members running with something doesn't equate to the MSM falsifying statements.

    Do this, finish with your cigar, eat your food, and come back when you can focus. Pay close attention to the question I asked, answer THAT question with relevant information.

    I'll dig it all up later. you are seriously arguing that no left winger here really believed that is what she said? Come now.... I'd hate for the partisan police to come call you out!
    Again, you are offering up irrelevant red herrings. I'll type it again so there is no confusion. I don't care what left wing posters here believed, nor why they believed it. I have asked for examples of the MSM (giving examples such as MSNBC and CBS so that there is no question what the standard is) taking these comments and falsifying them or blowing them out of proportion. Your citing blogs, internet op ed pieces, and other DP members does not rise to the standard that was originally laid out, which was main stream media (MSNBC, CBS, FOX, ABC CNN, etc). No reframing, no moving of the goal posts. By the way, some of your citations didn't actually say she said "I can see Russia from my porch."

    Nothing about me asking you to stay within the lines is partisan.

    yes we are, I have no problem with it. We can discuss it all day long.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No...they were simple and straightforward
    And less than impressive. Responding to a question regarding how the proximity of her state gives her any insight into Russian actions with "they're our neighbors" and "you can see parts of Russia from Alaska" is not an appropriate answer to give. You can't defend that. She had no good answer. Simple...oh yeah, real simple.

    and made a fatal mistake: expecting her detractors to give it some thought and think about the implications rather than turning completely juvenile and deranged with their criticism.
    Hardly. When you are running for the number two spot in this nation and you provide answers to questions that make no sense you shouldn't expect any quarter. She deserved criticism over her answers. Just like McCain deserved his, just like Obama deserved his, just like Biden deserved his.

    Now, back to this MSM falsifying comments and attributing them to her. If we are going to count OEN, SNL, and DP posters as MSM then let me know. Because I think we all need to form some kind of writers guild here and renegotiate our compensation schedule with the networks.

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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The difference is. The others get moved.
    I'll give you this one, I have no idea why this is in BN. It would fit more appropriately in Partisan Politics, but I suppose it does actually qualify as BN hence the mods decision to leave it. Who knows.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I'll give you this one, I have no idea why this is in BN. It would fit more appropriately in Partisan Politics, but I suppose it does actually qualify as BN hence the mods decision to leave it. Who knows.



    this we agree. I am SOOO not motivated to dig up and respond to your other post though, especially after such a nice dinner, .... nothing personal, just this really is only an issue that i make light comments on due to its rather insignificant nature.

    I heard it repeated ad nauseum, here, in the msm, (the pundits anyway) and elsewhere. ymmv....
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    And less than impressive. Responding to a question regarding how the proximity of her state gives her any insight into Russian actions with "they're our neighbors" and "you can see parts of Russia from Alaska" is not an appropriate answer to give. You can't defend that. She had no good answer. Simple...oh yeah, real simple.


    Hardly. When you are running for the number two spot in this nation and you provide answers to questions that make no sense you shouldn't expect any quarter. She deserved criticism over her answers. Just like McCain deserved his, just like Obama deserved his, just like Biden deserved his.

    Now, back to this MSM falsifying comments and attributing them to her. If we are going to count OEN, SNL, and DP posters as MSM then let me know. Because I think we all need to form some kind of writers guild here and renegotiate our compensation schedule with the networks.



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    seems some get more of a pass than others.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How many states are there, and how does a kid with asthma get bye?


    seems some get more of a pass than others.
    And I'll agree with you. The MSM has does exhibit a favored son with regard to giving Obama much more breathing room on his gaffes. Neither fair nor balanced.

    But...we were talking about Palin I think.

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