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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    She did appoint a pro-choice judge to Alaska's SC.
    My question would be "did she appoint that person just primarily because the judge was pro-choice" or because Palin felt the judge was an all around good choice?

    I'm always curious about appointments like this. I'm not going to pass any judgement on her here because I don't know enough about her actual reasoning. But it's interesting info.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    My question would be "did she appoint that person just primarily because the judge was pro-choice" or because Palin felt the judge was an all around good choice?

    I'm always curious about appointments like this. I'm not going to pass any judgement on her here because I don't know enough about her actual reasoning. But it's interesting info.
    My thinking is that she put her pro-life side aside and appointed the judge on their ability and merits.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Okay, so if I support a woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her own pregnancy, but I choose to keep that fetus--how would you label me?


    Pro-Abortion.


    You support her choice to get an abortion.


    I am pro gun.

    I support your RIGHT to own a gun.


    Pro-choice is like the way we use the word fetus. To dehumanize the act.


    If I was "pro-choice" and someone said to me I was "pro-abortion", I would say "yeah so"?


    The fact that you all have a problem with that term, to me, means that some little sliver inside you all, know its wrong. I call that. *Hope*.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Organizations like NOW & the pro choice crowd sure didn't sound pro choice to me when Palin decided to have Trig.

    So much for choice and women's rights.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Pro-Abortion.


    You support her choice to get an abortion.


    I am pro gun.

    I support your RIGHT to own a gun.


    Pro-choice is like the way we use the word fetus. To dehumanize the act.


    If I was "pro-choice" and someone said to me I was "pro-abortion", I would say "yeah so"?


    The fact that you all have a problem with that term, to me, means that some little sliver inside you all, know its wrong. I call that. *Hope*.
    I call that *Dishonesty*.

    You support the right to own a gun. You are pro-gun.

    I support her right to choose. I am pro-choice.

    No one is "pro-abortion". I think I am pretty accurate in stating that most pro-choicers when I say that no one is all like "Yay!!!! Abortions for everyone. YAY!!!! Happy abortion day!"

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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I call that *Dishonesty*.

    How is it dishonest?


    You support the right to own a gun. You are pro-gun.

    I support her right to choose. I am pro-choice.

    Choose what? it's ambiguous, dehumanizing, and hides the truth of the discussion. It is a catch phrase invented by Now to change the frame of the discussion from being against the act of abortion to an ambiguous general term.

    Just like "man-caused disasters".



    No one is "pro-abortion". I think I am pretty accurate in stating that most pro-choicers when I say that no one is all like "Yay!!!! Abortions for everyone. YAY!!!! Happy abortion day!"

    I think you are taking "pro-abortion" the wrong way, I don't mean it like I think aps or others want people to have abortions at all..


    I know people who are "pro-gun" but would never own one. You can be pro-abortion but never get one, or even want to see people get one.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    My thinking is that she put her pro-life side aside and appointed the judge on their ability and merits.
    I hope that's the case, however I wouldn't be very critical of her even if she did appoint the judge based upon her own prejudices. That's what governors and presidents do.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Pro-Abortion.


    You support her choice to get an abortion.
    No, not at all. An abortion is a procedure, and I'm not "pro" any procedure. Pro-choice, I'm "pro" on the issue that it should be a woman's choice whether or not she has the procedure. It's about the choice, not the procedure.


    I am pro gun.
    A gun is a tangible object, a gun is not a right. Pro-gun is actually a description that is slightly inaccurate when describing being pro-2nd Amendment. You are a gun enthusiast. But you are also a pro-2nd Amendment guy.

    I support your RIGHT to own a gun.
    Here's the difference, a person can be pro-2nd Amendment like you and I, but dislike actually owning a gun. They would not be pro-gun, they would be pro-gun rights or pro-2nd Amendment.

    Pro-choice is like the way we use the word fetus. To dehumanize the act.
    Absolutely false. Pro-choice is just that. "Pro" womens right to choose the procedure to abort a fetus. You may be morally offended by this, but that does not make your opinion of how someone uses the word "fetus" right. That is your way of trying to guilt people who don't subscribe to your standard of thinking.
    If I was "pro-choice" and someone said to me I was "pro-abortion", I would say "yeah so"?
    Well that is you. But that is not even close to being an accurate description of a pro-choice point of view.

    The fact that you all have a problem with that term, to me, means that some little sliver inside you all, know its wrong. I call that. *Hope*.
    The fact that some of us have a problem with that term is centered on the fact that it's inaccurate and being used a way to gain some false moral high ground from which to demean pro-choice folks.

    That's the problem.
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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    No, not at all. An abortion is a procedure, and I'm not "pro" any procedure. Pro-choice, I'm "pro" on the issue that it should be a woman's choice whether or not she has the procedure. It's about the choice, not the procedure.



    A gun is a tangible object, a gun is not a right. Pro-gun is actually a description that is slightly inaccurate when describing being pro-2nd Amendment. You are a gun enthusiast. But you are also a pro-2nd Amendment guy.


    Here's the difference, a person can be pro-2nd Amendment like you and I, but dislike actually owning a gun. They would not be pro-gun, they would be pro-gun rights or pro-2nd Amendment.


    Absolutely false. Pro-choice is just that. "Pro" womens right to choose the procedure to abort a fetus. You may be morally offended by this, but that does not make your opinion of how someone uses the word "fetus" right. That is your way of trying to guilt people who don't subscribe to your standard of thinking.

    Well that is you. But that is not even close to being an accurate description of a pro-choice point of view.


    The fact that some of us have a problem with that term is centered on the fact that it's inaccurate and being used a way to gain some false moral high ground from which to demean pro-choice folks.

    That's the problem.


    hmm.... ok... then how about "pro-abortion rights" or "pro-abortion choice"?


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    Re: Palin stands against abortion during Ind. speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post

    Here's the difference, a person can be pro-2nd Amendment like you and I, but dislike actually owning a gun. They would not be pro-gun, they would be pro-gun rights or pro-2nd Amendment.

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    Oh don't be silly. The issue of abortion is whether a fetus is a person, it is an entirely different issue to gun rights.
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