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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Let me answer you with a question. Are 100% of the people in there terrorists?
    Why would that be relevant to this discussion? Do you think that 100% of them were subject to "enhanced" interrogation methods?

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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why would that be relevant to this discussion? Do you think that 100% of them were subject to "enhanced" interrogation methods?
    Yes. I think they might have been.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Yes. I think they might have been.
    And you have facts to support such an assertion?

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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    And you have facts to support such an assertion?
    I said think. I don't need facts for thinking. Most Liberals don't. ;p
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I said think. I don't need facts for thinking. Most Liberals don't. ;p
    But I thought you were not a liberal?

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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Maybe if I clarified my position on this "WAR" it would be helpful:

    I don't consider the 9/11 attack, the The Munich Olympics massacre in 1972 or any acts of terrorism....acts of war.

    You continue to voice your opinion as if you are defining the global event. It just doesn't matter what you consider. It's the same attitude that Westerners have when they preach their Geneva Convention rules and become confused when those who don't recognize such things behave badly.

    You see, those we fight are very much engaged in what they very much consider a "war." They have been engaged in this war for years and years and years. Even after obvious attacks upon Americans, in and out of uniform, we refused to engage them properly. If only they knew that only a 9/11 scenario would force us to recognize their war they could have gotten us in a lot sooner.

    This is their war. Not ours. We merely accepted the invite.

    But the trouble people continue to have is that they think a "war" is an event between nations. It is no longer true. hell, in our politicially correct weakened culture, we were ahead of this game. Over time, our war against Germany turned into a war against Nazi Germany. Well, the world has evolved into an environment where no nation would dare attack us. In our haste to alleviate responsibility from whole nation populations and to define our enemies as merely the governments....we have seen the world actually reflect our wishes to seperate governments from people in an ironic way. Now, we have to deal with the enemy tribes or elements within nations as their governments shrug and offer condolensces. Now, we have to embark into other nations or bomb sites within from afar because governments don't take responsibility for their creations.

    You may not want to call this a "war," but this is the war of the 21st century. Embrace it or deny it.....it will be treated as such. And since Geneva lays down the rules of war as we once knew it (when Europeans waged war upon each other and Jews were the target of slaughter)....we must now redefine the legal combatant as a uniformed and non-uniformed enemy.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Let me answer you with a question. Are 100% of the people in there terrorists?
    Are 100% of the prisoners in American prisons law breakers? It's the price of doing business. Innocent people will be screwed (literally).

    And I dare say that not every single body captured during WWII and placed in a prison camp for the duration had something to do with the war.

    The only way to make sure that 100% of the people in GITMO are terrorists is to not even make an attempt to capture any of them. The leftist defense of war prisoners is appauling and offers the enemy free reign.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    During the lifetime of this thread Obama's stance changed twice.
    Friday his stance came back to the title.

    Its probably his last chance to end it before it turns into a farce of "crimes" show trial and all.

    The chance of resignations is high in that event..inc his.

    Unless we are not going to charge those who ordered/oversaw/reviewed/whatever the actons..like the entire Congress. Sure some of them may get off depending which party controls the charade..but its a Republic breaking action.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Are 100% of the prisoners in American prisons law breakers? It's the price of doing business. Innocent people will be screwed (literally).
    I would imagine that that happens much more often when the people in question are denied a fair trial, legal representation, presumption of innocence, or any contact with the outside world.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out Charging C.I.A. Agents in Interrogations

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I would imagine that that happens much more often when the people in question are denied a fair trial, legal representation, presumption of innocence, or any contact with the outside world.
    You would imagine? Well, as long as we have your imagination.

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