"Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis
My attitude is a very simple one: We are Americans, not Nazis! Torture is NEVER justifiable & "I was just following orders" has not been an acceptable defense since Nuremberg.....Period!
Anyone who authorized torture or carried it out is a monster & needs to be punished.
What is torture?
I think it was Justice Brandeis who was once asked a similar question about pornography. His response was something like this:
"I cant give you a good legal definition of it but...............I know it when i see it!"
Last edited by Devil505; 04-21-09 at 06:42 PM.
Here's what I find funny. I am anti-death penalty and have a relatively low threshold for what I think it's ok for one human to do to another. When our government blows up a terrorist's house and kills the terrorist but also his little kids I get pissed. I don't think it's ok to kill everyone who is in a house/building in order to get your single target. I think we're better than that. Yet, most don't say boo about it.
But this water crapola makes everyone nuts. Everyone has an opinion on it. And the hysteria surrounding it is just soooo without merit when you put it in perspective. Waterboarding is probably one of the least horrifying aspects of war I can think of off the top of my head for Christ's sake.
Gimme a god damn break.
Most of them were not waterboarded.
This is exactly what pisses me off about Obama going on TV and talking crap about our mistakes and wrongdoing. Now we have goofs talking about monsters among us.
We simply disagree. I was a DEA Agent & interrogated thousands of prisoners for information & never once felt the need to torture. A smart interrogater knows that torture will get the prisoner to tell you ANYTHING he thinks you want to hear. Torture is ineffective for getting reliable info & it is cowardly, un-American, immoral, illegal & can't be justified by simply calling it something besides torture. Call it "Fred"........It's still torture!.....& if you "Fred" someone....You are indeed a monster!
Last edited by Devil505; 04-21-09 at 07:01 PM.