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Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

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Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

Somebody should educate the Democrats that what is "un-American" is disregarding the Constitution and disrespecting state authority.

No, Texas should not secede at this time, but neither should the Federal government feel that it can disregard the prerogatives of state governments.
 
celticlord said:
Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

Somebody should educate the Democrats that what is "un-American" is disregarding the Constitution and disrespecting state authority.

No, Texas should not secede at this time, but neither should the Federal government feel that it can disregard the prerogatives of state governments.
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Only a democrat could confuse "affirming soveriegnty under the constitution" for "secession".
 
jallman said:
It's because "democrat" and "hysterics" are synonymous.
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What, if anything, did that add to the conversation except to prove that your perceptions are hysterical, warped, mega-super-jumbo-hyperpartisan, and uncalled for? ;)
 
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disneydude said:
What, if anything, did that add to the conversation except to prove that your perceptions are hysterical, warped, mega-super-jumbo-hyperpartisan, and uncalled for? ;)
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Showing such imagination today, huh?
 
Wait...

People saying that the sitting President of the United States during the time of war is a Nazi, is the equivalent of Hitler, is a war criminal, and is reveling and excited in the deaths of our citizens and soldiers is something Democrats told us isn't un-american and we shouldn't question.

People saying our troops are murderers and torturers that are raping iraqi women left and right and sneaking into homes at night just to terrorize people is something Democrats told us isn't un-american and we shouldn't question.

People suggesting that the government planned out and killed 3000 of their own citizens, injured countless others, and did untold amount of damage to a city is something Democrats told us isn't un-american and we shouldn't question.

And I can go on and on and on....

THOSE Things we're told, you can't call un-american.

But affirming a states sovereignty as delegated BY THE UNITED STATES ****ING CONSTITUTION is somehow ****ing un-american?!?!!?!

Representative Duncan, please go screw off and shut your mouth, your drivel makes every one of your cohorts in your party look worse for it you ignorant little ****ing prick.
 
Zyphlin said:
But affirming a states sovereignty as delegated BY THE UNITED STATES ****ING CONSTITUTION is somehow ****ing un-american?!?!!?!
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Apparently Democrats are more equal than the rest of us....
 
I'm a Democrat and I don't agree with the "Texas Democrats" referenced in the linked to paragraph being masqueraded as a "news article". The Governor has every ability to say what he did.
 
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Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
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Does saying the pledge of allegiance outweigh a state's sovereignty as outlined in the Constitution of the United States? I wasn't aware that the pledge was legally binding.
 
Moon said:
Does saying the pledge of allegiance outweigh a state's sovereignty as outlined in the Constitution of the United States? I wasn't aware that the pledge was legally binding.
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Isn't the pledge of a allegiance a relatively new thing compared to the constitution, anyway? So it doesn't really mean anything if it somehow ever contradicted the constitution.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
Only a democrat could confuse "affirming soveriegnty under the constitution" for "secession".
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I believe Gov. Perry did mention the "S" word.

He said he believes Texas has the right to secede.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
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No one is pissed about "paying taxes". Peope are, however, pissed about having taxes raised to pay for this huge stimulus package that creates unprecedented government interference in businesses.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.
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Jesus Christ, by this interpretation I hope you also say that Obama is un-American. After all

One Nation, under God, indivisible.

What a load of crap.

Hey, here you go.

I thought it was idiotic when Conservatives start banding around "un-american"

I think this is stupid to be banding around "un-american"

And if a republican said a Democrat trying to do the same thing because of a legitimate CONSTITUTIONAL issue then I'd say they TOO are being idiotic.
 
bhkad said:
I believe Gov. Perry did mention the "S" word.

He said he believes Texas has the right to secede.
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If he said that, he's wrong.

What Texas, and all the other states do have, is a copy of the Constitution, and they can decide if they're going to assist the federal government enforce unconstitutional laws. Texas could suspend it's support of the drug interdiction programs, for example.

What it can't do is withdraw from the union.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
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The best part about Texas is they remember the Alamo. They decided THEN, that if the US would turn its back on them in their time of great need, they would be a lone star state, and stand on their own two feet, in future times of great need. I have not read the Texas," state constitution ", but I`ll bet it goes something like this... "Should the US or any other nation become tyranous over the people of the great state of Texas, we shall secede". :cool:
 
Rodney said:
The best part about Texas is they remember the Alamo. They decided THEN, that if the US would turn its back on them in their time of great need, they would be a lone star state, and stand on their own two feet, in future times of great need. I have not read the Texas," state constitution ", but I`ll bet it goes something like this... "Should the US or any other nation become tyranous over the people of the great state of Texas, we shall secede". :cool:
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They already tried this in 1861, it didn't really work out for them.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
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There was something else about a ..."sovereign nation", some important matter that our black muslim president is all to willing to ignore. Well, if it comes to mind, I`ll get back with you there democRAT.... Darn, I`ve gotta get this hard drive looked at.
 
Democrat4life said:
Wow. I can't believe you people.

Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

So yes, it is un-American.

The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
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I hardly think there was "fit throwing" going on....check into it...as of last I had heard...31 states had either passed or were in the process of reviewing calls for sovereignty. I believe it passed the Indiana Senate on the 9th of April WOOHOO! I pray noone secedes but im pretty sure that our military leaders will reign it all in without too much bloodshed if it does happen. The tea parties were really about alot of things to alot of people....Joe Blow maybe cared about taxes...but another guy/gal cared about the rediculous power our federal government has. The Federal Government has ballooned WELL beyond its constitutional borders and infringes on states and the people in EVERY aspect. Its not a partisan thing....hell republicans (which ive now parted from) were doing the same damn thing...its time for our country to correct itself and its rediculous that these pompous FU$%TARD politicians wont listen. I dont even care about myself and any of you guys......I care about our children and their children. Another thing while im at it....FU$% the 2 state "solution this administration is striving for...if anyone really thinks the Palistinians will be happy when they have a state...think again.......GO ISRAEL EAT THEIR FILTHY ALLAH LOVING SOULS! (sorry been to iraq and afghanistan and pretty much hate islam :mrgreen:) Besides, no matter how many nations rise and fall and disappear into history....Jews have always been around...hmm...and Hebrew, once thought dead, was revived to become their national language....not to mention the fact that Israel was reborn...crazy how Gods promises seem to ACTUALLY happen....and no...im not Jewish but protestant...but damn Jews and their Country are REMARKABLE!
 
Rodney said:
Maybe we`ll all join them this time. The second ammendment insists on it. That ammendment isn`t at all about guns, its about dealing withg tyranny.
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The entire text of the second amendment reads:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Any interpretation of this sentence to justify secession or revolution is a figment of your imagination.
 
Wessexman said:
Or a half decent knowledge of the US FF's and constitutional history.
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The language is right there, any attempt to bend it into permission to revolt is wishful thinking.
 
WillRockwell said:
The language is right there, any attempt to bend it into permission to revolt is wishful thinking.
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The express purpose of the amendment was to resist tyranny including state tyranny. This was why it was inserted with anti-federalist pressure. Case closed.
 
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