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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Wow. I can't believe you people.

    Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

    So yes, it is un-American.

    The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

    I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
    Does saying the pledge of allegiance outweigh a state's sovereignty as outlined in the Constitution of the United States? I wasn't aware that the pledge was legally binding.
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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Does saying the pledge of allegiance outweigh a state's sovereignty as outlined in the Constitution of the United States? I wasn't aware that the pledge was legally binding.
    Isn't the pledge of a allegiance a relatively new thing compared to the constitution, anyway? So it doesn't really mean anything if it somehow ever contradicted the constitution.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Only a democrat could confuse "affirming soveriegnty under the constitution" for "secession".
    I believe Gov. Perry did mention the "S" word.

    He said he believes Texas has the right to secede.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Wow. I can't believe you people.

    Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

    So yes, it is un-American.

    The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

    I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
    No one is pissed about "paying taxes". Peope are, however, pissed about having taxes raised to pay for this huge stimulus package that creates unprecedented government interference in businesses.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Wow. I can't believe you people.

    Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

    So yes, it is un-American.
    Jesus Christ, by this interpretation I hope you also say that Obama is un-American. After all

    One Nation, under God, indivisible.

    What a load of crap.

    Hey, here you go.

    I thought it was idiotic when Conservatives start banding around "un-american"

    I think this is stupid to be banding around "un-american"

    And if a republican said a Democrat trying to do the same thing because of a legitimate CONSTITUTIONAL issue then I'd say they TOO are being idiotic.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I believe Gov. Perry did mention the "S" word.

    He said he believes Texas has the right to secede.
    If he said that, he's wrong.

    What Texas, and all the other states do have, is a copy of the Constitution, and they can decide if they're going to assist the federal government enforce unconstitutional laws. Texas could suspend it's support of the drug interdiction programs, for example.

    What it can't do is withdraw from the union.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Wow. I can't believe you people.

    Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

    So yes, it is un-American.

    The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

    I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
    The best part about Texas is they remember the Alamo. They decided THEN, that if the US would turn its back on them in their time of great need, they would be a lone star state, and stand on their own two feet, in future times of great need. I have not read the Texas," state constitution ", but I`ll bet it goes something like this... "Should the US or any other nation become tyranous over the people of the great state of Texas, we shall secede".

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    The best part about Texas is they remember the Alamo. They decided THEN, that if the US would turn its back on them in their time of great need, they would be a lone star state, and stand on their own two feet, in future times of great need. I have not read the Texas," state constitution ", but I`ll bet it goes something like this... "Should the US or any other nation become tyranous over the people of the great state of Texas, we shall secede".
    They already tried this in 1861, it didn't really work out for them.
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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by Democrat4life View Post
    Wow. I can't believe you people.

    Some people were pissed that they still had to pay taxes, even in these hard economic times and threw a fit and protested. That, in no way, gives the Texan governor the right to mention secession as a possibility. It clearly says in our Pledge of Allegiance 'One Nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE'.

    So yes, it is un-American.

    The Federal government did nothing out of its jurisdiction, the republicans (if you want to make this about party affiliaition) are being overdramatic and are still sore about the election.

    I bet you wouldn't be pissed at the Rep. who told a democratic governor the same thing in the same situation.
    There was something else about a ..."sovereign nation", some important matter that our black muslim president is all to willing to ignore. Well, if it comes to mind, I`ll get back with you there democRAT.... Darn, I`ve gotta get this hard drive looked at.

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    Re: Democrats: Texas gov should disavow secession talk

    Quote Originally Posted by YamiB. View Post
    They already tried this in 1861, it didn't really work out for them.
    Maybe we`ll all join them this time. The second ammendment insists on it. That ammendment isn`t at all about guns, its about dealing withg tyranny.

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