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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Right because there are no Muslims in the U.S. military right?
    Muslim U.S. military who are possibly right-wing extremists?

    What the hell is your point?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by 7thKeeper View Post
    I think the more important question here then is... is it then? Out of curiosity, anyone here compared the language used in this report to the one released, IIRC, about a month earlier on left-wing extremists? I do remember that it included some notes on eco-terrorists and stuff like that.
    Left wing extremists were characterized as non-violent, while right wing extremists were characterized as violent.
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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Rage is not productive. Vigilance is.
    Rage was fery productive in the 60s, but vigilance wont get me locked up... I`ll try a dose. We may be more like minded than I realized. While I am not an active member I was once a member of Right to Life ;Xenia , Ohio. I am a proud, angry veteran, and outspoken more-so than ever before in my life. I have a problem with watching this country go down to the third world level at the hands of socialists. I retract my FEMINAZI comment, made in haste and in error, I suppose. FYI, I am still a right to lifer, and a member of the American Legion, a group which lobies for veterans and the USA. Gotta go to work, at my part-time, temporary job. Thank you for your vigilance.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Left wing extremists were characterized as non-violent, while right wing extremists were characterized as violent.
    Wow, did you even read the right wing version? All it states is that there is a possibility among certain aspects of the right wing extremists to become violent depending on the situation. And they named some of those possibilities with some examples. Denying that there is a risk on the right is sticking your head in the sand. But that does not mean that everyone on the right will go out and take potshots at the White House and bomb federal buildings.. far far from it. It even says that there at present are no threats from organized right wing groups against the USA... so come on.
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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Wow, did you even read the right wing version? All it states is that there is a possibility among certain aspects of the right wing extremists to become violent depending on the situation. And they named some of those possibilities with some examples. Denying that there is a risk on the right is sticking your head in the sand. But that does not mean that everyone on the right will go out and take potshots at the White House and bomb federal buildings.. far far from it. It even says that there at present are no threats from organized right wing groups against the USA... so come on.
    I think its far more likely that left wing extremists (ie the "Revolutionary Communist Party" who sponsored World Can't Wait) will try to take advantage of the faltering economy to create chaos.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    No--there is no significant difference. Homeland Security is defining who may be home grown terrorists. If you MAY be one, they are looking at you. NRL MAY be one based on the way HS is defining the parameters.
    Just because they said that single issue groups may be extremist doesn't meant that they are going to be watched. Nothing in the report implies that they are going to be watching all single issue groups. That's absurd. This still sounds like nothing but paranoia.

    Sure they are susceptible--do they need to be targeted as suspicious because they are just like the rest of us, but have military training?
    Again, I fail to see how they are being targeted as suspicious. The article only said that they are being targeted by these groups. Once again, heavy on the paranoia.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Does anybody remember when Quakers were targeted ?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Just because they said that single issue groups may be extremist doesn't meant that they are going to be watched.
    It doesn't mean they won't either. It paves the way for justifying unwarranted intrusion upon our freedoms and puts a chill on the free exercise of our 1st amendment rights for fear it may label us as "extremist."

    Nothing in the report implies that they are going to be watching all single issue groups. That's absurd. This still sounds like nothing but paranoia.
    It is too vague. It is paranoia--in the tradition of the founders.
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    Again, I fail to see how they are being targeted as suspicious. The article only said that they are being targeted by these groups. Once again, heavy on the paranoia.
    I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW YOU DON'T SEE THAT IT POINTS OUT AND NAMES VETERANS AS POTENTIAL (sorry 'bout caps, just noticed) terrorists. That is indeed what the document presents.
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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    It doesn't mean they won't either. It paves the way for justifying unwarranted intrusion upon our freedoms and puts a chill on the free exercise of our 1st amendment rights for fear it may label us as "extremist."
    But you have no reason to believe that they will other than your own paranoia. I don't trust the government, but I think it's absurd that they would actually go after these groups when there is absolutely no indication that they would.

    I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW YOU DON'T SEE THAT IT POINTS OUT AND NAMES VETERANS AS POTENTIAL (sorry 'bout caps, just noticed) terrorists. That is indeed what the document presents.
    It points them out as potential recruitment targets for these extremist groups. That's it. Do you disagree that these extremist groups would be on the lookout for veterans to recruit considering their skills and experience?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    But you have no reason to believe that they will other than your own paranoia. I don't trust the government, but I think it's absurd that they would actually go after these groups when there is absolutely no indication that they would.



    It points them out as potential recruitment targets for these extremist groups. That's it. Do you disagree that these extremist groups would be on the lookout for veterans to recruit considering their skills and experience?
    Listen, the DHS is essentially a domestic intelligence organization. It's growing into the "eyes and ears" of the government. It is constitutionally and morally illegitimate. We need to get rid of it before it's too late.

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