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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by 7thKeeper View Post
    I'll try to find it for ya. I saw it talked about at militaryphotos.net in a thread about this same report.

    Ah, think I found it. Just needed to google "report left-wing extremists". Here's two links to the same pdf-file.

    http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/wp...nuary-2009.pdf

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...ist_Threat.pdf

    I'll have to read the two side-by-side and see how the language differs.
    Okay--I'm looking at it and so far it is going out of it's way to say how "non-violent" these left-wingers are.

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    I read the whole thing...they do not compare.

    Truly--comparatively, the left-wing piece was propaganda for their non-violence when measured against the scary Murrah building reference in the right wing.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Earlier you said that the NRL fits the definition of an extremist group. However, the report doesn't define single issue groups as extremist.
    OMGah, dude--you're hung up on the word "may."


    How is it disrespectful? They aren't even characterized. It says that some right wing groups may target them because of their skills and experience. And are you seriously going to suggest that troops are somehow not susceptible to the same things that all of us are?
    Have you read it? It's not long...

    "The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."


    do you not recognize what that is suggesting about returning veterans?

    There is a whole section called "Disgruntled Military Veterans" --please read the document.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    It's also an interesting assumption that significant numbers of them would be "disgruntled." They aren't/won't be returning in an atmosphere anything like what followed the large-scale return from Vietnam, either THERE or HERE.

    It's true, of course, that SOME have problems.
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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    OMGah, dude--you're hung up on the word "may."
    Yeah I do because there's a world of difference between saying "right wing extremism includes single issue groups" and "right wing extremism may include single issue groups".

    Have you read it? It's not long...
    "The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks."

    do you not recognize what that is suggesting about returning veterans?

    There is a whole section called "Disgruntled Military Veterans" --please read the document.
    Yes I did read it. I still don't find it disrespectful. Veterans are just as susceptible to things as the rest of us are. While I respect them and thank them heartily for their service I'm not going to place them on an absurdly high super-human pedestal.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Yeah I do because there's a world of difference between saying "right wing extremism includes single issue groups" and "right wing extremism may include single issue groups".
    No--there is no significant difference. Homeland Security is defining who may be home grown terrorists. If you MAY be one, they are looking at you. NRL MAY be one based on the way HS is defining the parameters.

    Yes I did read it. I still don't find it disrespectful. Veterans are just as susceptible to things as the rest of us are. While I respect them and thank them heartily for their service I'm not going to place them on an absurdly high super-human pedestal.
    Sure they are susceptible--do they need to be targeted as suspicious because they are just like the rest of us, but have military training?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    Sure they are susceptible--do they need to be targeted as suspicious because they are just like the rest of us, but have military training?
    Sure Muslims are susceptible--do American Muslims need to be targeted because they are just like the rest of us, but follow a different religion than Christianity?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sure Muslims are susceptible--do American Muslims need to be targeted because they are just like the rest of us, but follow a different religion than Christianity?
    Well--aside from the false "reason" you give for possible profiling of Arab Americans, that's not really even comparable to targeting those men and women who risk their lives in defense of the nation that then wants to investigate them for terrorist activities upon their return home.

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    No--there is no significant difference. Homeland Security is defining who may be home grown terrorists. If you MAY be one, they are looking at you. NRL MAY be one based on the way HS is defining the parameters.

    Sure they are susceptible--do they need to be targeted as suspicious because they are just like the rest of us, but have military training?
    Concider this from a veteran. You are willing to fight and die for your country, and a certain government starts screwing up the very country you are still willing to fight for. Veterans are patriots., not for a government, but for a country... God and country..., and certainly not (patriots) for the socialist conversion on the horizon, and the globalism that took our jobs , and our childrens jobs. How many of you voted for globalism to replace the US constitution ?

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    Re: Federal agency warns of radicals on right

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodney View Post
    Concider this from a veteran. You are willing to fight and die for your country, and a certain government starts screwing up the very country you are still willing to fight for. Veterans are patriots., not for a government, but for a country... God and country..., and certainly not (patriots) for the socialist conversion on the horizon, and the globalism that took our jobs , and our childrens jobs. How many of you voted for globalism to replace the US constitution ?
    IS that what is happening? Is that what veterans believe? Do you have evidence of this?

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