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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's a lot more to the civil war than slavery.
    Like what??

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You can doubt it all you want -- but until you show where secession is an act prohibited by the Constitution, your doubts are withoug merit -- and so,you would have to prove that with something other than your opioion.

    There is NO doubt what the 10th amendment says, just as there is NO doubt that the Constitution contans NO language that prohibits secession.


    You would have to prove that with something other than your opioion.


    This has been explained to you -- the act is not prohibited by the Constitution, and therefore is a right retained under the 10th amendment.

    Note also that 'secession' and 'dissolution' are seperate things -- there is nothing in the Constititon that prevents the states from passing an amendment that declares the Constititon null and void, thereby dissolving the untion.
    You truly did not give me any evidence to support your claim. So therfore I will have to say they are baseless.

    Again, the whole issue of Secession was solved 140 years ago. so this who non sense from The Texas Gov. is just that; nonsense.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    Like what??
    Perhaps, if you continued to read the thread...

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    You truly did not give me any evidence to support your claim.
    Well, lets see:

    -I cited the 10th amendment
    -I noted that there is nothing in the Constitition that prohibits secession.

    That's all the evidence necessary to support my claim -- there is NO doubt what the 10th amendment says, just as there is NO doubt that the Constitution contans NO language that prohibits secession

    What evidence to the contrary have YOU supplied?

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I'm not sure you understand the issue. Allow me to create a parallel:

    If a state passes a law that allows it to deny extradition of criminal to another state, the state who has been denied extratidition has had its rights violated. If the federal government refuses force the state that refused to extradite that criminal, then the state that ha sbeen denied extradition has had its rights violated.

    The issue regarding the FSU is similar.
    The Supreme Court could easily order the extradition; secession would be a completely over reaction of the sitiutation. Or better, yet, the attorney general could probably get the extradition done by sending in federal marshals. either way, this is not a good analogy for the debate of sucession.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    [QUOTE=jallman;1057994199] The Civil War was about state's rights. QUOTE]

    Which state rights were being violated exactly?

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by carolinaguy View Post
    The Supreme Court could easily order the extradition;
    This would be covered under "If the federal government refuses force the state..."

    secession would be a completely over reaction of the sitiutation.
    Your opinion, which means nothing.

    Either way, this is not a good analogy for the debate of sucession.
    You'll note that this was a parallel, drawn to illustrate how the FSA violated the rights of the southern states.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Well, lets see:

    -I cited the 10th amendment
    -I noted that there is nothing in the Constitition that prohibits secession.

    That's all the evidence necessary to support my claim -- there is NO doubt what the 10th amendment says, just as there is NO doubt that the Constitution contans NO language that prohibits secession

    What evidence to the contrary have YOU supplied?
    -It is highly debatable that the 10 amendment supports destroying the country

    -There is nothing in the constitution that says it's okay to succede. So we are still at square one if you ask me.

    My whole argument is, you don't have one to support this notion of succession.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This would be covered under "If the federal government refuses force the state..."


    Your opinion, which means nothing.


    You'll note that this was a parallel, drawn to illustrate how the FSA violated the rights of the southern states.
    You left out the part where I stated the attorney general could order federal marshalls to get the prisioner that needed to be extradicted. If your going to qoute me make sure you don't just use the part that suits you.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Perhaps, if you continued to read the thread...
    You said "there was a lot more to the Civil War than Slavery" I asked, "Like What?" That was your opinion, not the thread.

    I ask again, Like what?

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