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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What, if anything, did that add to the conversation except to prove that your perceptions are hysterical, warped, mega-super-jumbo-hyperpartisan, and uncalled for?
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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by YamiB. View Post
    Are you talking about the original Civil War?
    I am speaking about things in general.
    The US Civil War would be an example.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Shakespeare said, "Treason doth never prosper; for if it prosper, then none dare call it treason."

    Pragmatically, if you seceed and succeed, then you established your "right" to do so. The Founders and the 13 colonies had no legal right to "seceed" from England that would have been recognized under English law. They did it anyway, and now we celebrate their successful secession on Independence Day.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Shakespeare said, "Treason doth never prosper; for if it prosper, then none dare call it treason."

    Pragmatically, if you seceed and succeed, then you established your "right" to do so. The Founders and the 13 colonies had no legal right to "seceed" from England that would have been recognized under English law. They did it anyway, and now we celebrate their successful secession on Independence Day.

    Patriot or traitor, depends on your POV.
    The colonies did not secede from England, because they were never sovereign members of the British Empire, they were simply possessions.
    When the states joined the Union, part of the agreement was that they would stay together no matter what, the Union was not a club they could un-join. That's why Lincoln was determined to save the Union, the secession of southern states was a test of the concept.
    A state cannot secede, just like you can't leave the Mafia.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The colonies did not secede from England, because they were never sovereign members of the British Empire, they were simply possessions.
    When the states joined the Union, part of the agreement was that they would stay together no matter what, the Union was not a club they could un-join. That's why Lincoln was determined to save the Union, the secession of southern states was a test of the concept.
    A state cannot secede, just like you can't leave the Mafia.
    When the Nation of Texas joined the Union one condition was for our right to secede. We are the only Nation that joined the Union.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    When the states joined the Union, part of the agreement was that they would stay together no matter what,
    Where does the Constitution say that?

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I am speaking about things in general.
    The US Civil War would be an example.
    Okay, I was just checking if the preservation of chattel slavery is something you consider worthy of fighting for. Your answer would imply yes.
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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by YamiB. View Post
    Okay, I was just checking if the preservation of chattel slavery is something you consider worthy of fighting for. Your answer would imply yes.
    There's a lot more to the civil war than slavery.

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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's a lot more to the civil war than slavery.
    And slavery as the reason the South seceded and started a war seems to be brushed aside to easily. The statements of the confederates themselves show that it was a driving force behind their actions.
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    Re: Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That some things are worth fighting for, even if you might lose, and that doing so might make a real mess?
    What I'm saying is, Secession is a settled issue, it was settled over 140 years ago. Rick Perry is a not sounding very intelegent here.

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