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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    They are people who act like animals. Putting a friendly face on it gets us nowhere, either.
    Since when do animals hijack ships for money?

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Since when do animals hijack ships for money?
    Yeeeeeaaah. That's exactly what I was saying.
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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeeeeeaaah. That's exactly what I was saying.
    I'm just saying that it's silly to characterize them as animals just because you are disgusted by their actions. It makes your argument both absurd and purely emotionally based.

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Wait a minute, is this what Obama promised us? I thought it was the economy stupid. Rescuing is one thing, now he's escalating things.
    These pirates aren't just pirates, their hostage takings fuel the Jihad of al-Shabaab an AQ affiliated organization.

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Just kids with guns... Nothing to see here....
    No try Jihadists with guns.

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    3) As far as I know, Congress has not authorized a war with Somalia, and thus attacking assets within their territory would be a illegal.
    Not according to the war powers resolution of 1973 granting authority to the POTUS to engage U.S. forces for 60 days without Congressional authority.

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    They are people who act like animals. Putting a friendly face on it gets us nowhere, either.
    It's easy to hate and dehumanize the pirates. All you have to do to realize that you're in err is exercise your imagination and put yourself in their shoes.

    Imagine you're a teenager, a hard worker, but you barely make enough to live, let alone provide for your family. You're strong and tough and you're tired drinking the same water you **** in. One day you are approached by someone who tells you that he can set you up with a comfortable life, but it's a risky business riddled with danger. That's okay, because the danger excites you. It's thrilling.

    I'm not saying what they do is "right," but in my mind it's understandable. The "kill 'em all" solution will never work, and we will all have more blood on our hands as a result.

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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If you know pirates operate there and you go there knowingly and it gets hijacked and didn't pack weapons ... They are stupid and should be out of the shipping business.

    What is with this sudden boom of media interest in Somali pirates, it's been happening for years .... :S
    And we've been killing them since the Barbary wars, America is real big on killing hostage taking Jihadist pirates around the horn of Africa, it's part of our heritage, it's as American as apple pie.
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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I'm just saying that it's silly to characterize them as animals just because you are disgusted by their actions. It makes your argument both absurd and purely emotionally based.
    Ummmm . . . how? It's a common convention of speech -- the "metaphor," which you should have learned about in 4th grade or so. Do you actually think I'm literally calling them non-human?

    If that's the best you've got to counter what I'm saying, then you don't have much.

    Not that I get why you'd want to.
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    Re: US military mulls attacking Somali pirates' land bases; pirates vow revenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    These pirates aren't just pirates, their hostage takings fuel the Jihad of al-Shabaab an AQ affiliated organization.
    Prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Not according to the war powers resolution of 1973 granting authority to the POTUS to engage U.S. forces for 60 days without Congressional authority.
    That's an unconstitutional bill and should be thrown out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    No try Jihadists with guns.
    Prove it.

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