Slippery Slope, you chose your name well, because you are that: Slippery. Facts you don't wish to notice don't seem to stick to you. Facts have been presented and you are simply ignoring them...making it tempting to simply ignore you.
You're making up excuses to dodge the answer because you know full well that England's gun related death is WAY lower than the USA. We aren't talking about violent crimes, we are talking about gun related crimes. But that harms your argument so you'd better avoid it...
Not at all. There were statistics at a couple of the links I posted, did you bother to read them?
You use the point, "This is the USA, its a different culture, etc" as an argument that registration could never lead to confiscation HERE. At the same time, you decline to acknowlege that cultural differences between the US and UK are a primary reason for the different homicide rates.
Another thing you're ignoring is that the
violent crime rate IS extremely relevant, not simply the murder rate. Things like home invasions, rapes, strong-arm robbery, armed robbery, assaults, armed assaults and so on that do not necessarily result in death DO demonstrate how much violence is going on in a culture, and is relevant to law-abiding citizens being deprived of the most effective means of self-protection.
How so, because I am an advocate for gun registration?
Yes, not to mention you seem to wish to disparage the notion of armed self-defense in general. I posted a link to the Kleck study, regarding how guns are used for defense many times more often than for homicide.
Is this supposed to pass as an argument? Can you name one mass murderer who shouted "give me your money" before opening fire? Mass murderers do go to liquor stores and 7/11 to find masses of people to kill. Keep trying.
The distinction between robbers and murderers is a thin line. An armed robber is someone whose moral/ethical view is so far gone as to threaten others with a deadly weapon in order to achieve illegal gain. From that to murder is a small step, and one that happens regularly. There are cases in the news every day of robberies that result in one or more murders, even after the victims cooperated. My best friend died in a double homicide resulting from an armed robbery, despite full cooperation.
Your point fails utterly.
No, it is mere hypoerbole as well as fear mongering. There are over 300 million people in the USA, our government will NEVER be able to pass a law that would enact the confiscation of private citizens guns. To say otherwise is either intellectual dishonesty, fear mongering and or ignorance.
I hope you are correct. Are you familiar with the analogy of how to boil a live frog? You turn up the heat slowly so he doesn't jump out of the pot.
In similar fashion, we have ended up where we are now through incrementalism, numerous small steps of little significance alone but leading over time to major changes.
The "slippery slope fallacy" does not apply if the slope is greased and you're being
pushed.
G.