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She could have driven her car into a store front too, that would have stopped her assailant. BUT SHE DIDN'T.

Great, here's your real scenario. Both women have guns with them and there is a shoot out with children and bystanders within range of stray bullets. Didn't we just have video of John Wayne popping a a few caps off in a CVS and missing the other guy with a gun? :doh




Gotta love the hoplophobic arguments about shootouts and other such nonsense. :ssst:
 
What I find amusing is when I use your own arguments against you and then watch you jump at me for using those arguments. The hypocrisy always gets a laugh out of me.

No stats, with any meaningful correlation have been presented, your arguments of "what if", "it could happen" and "it happened to Nazi Germany" have been debunked or used against you to great effect and all you do is now that you've run out of fallicious arguments you simply resort to dismissal or personal attacks. I'm sorry that your position is not only untenable but fantasy at best.
 
What I find amusing is when I use your own arguments against you and then watch you jump at me for using those arguments. The hypocrisy always gets a laugh out of me.
What do you mean? You made some very dodgy points and skulked away.

Where are your arguments? You pinted at my country,were proved wrong quite quickly, accused me of doing what you were actually doing, ie ignoring cultural differences, and then ran away.

Do you seriously think you got away from all this with much dignity intact?
 
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What do you mean? You made some very dodgy points and skulked away.
My points weren't dodgy, at least that's not a criticism until now and I didn't "skulk" away or go away at all, I'm right here. So you're attempt at dismissal fail.


Where are your arguments? You pinted at my country,were proved wrong quite quickly, accused me of doing what you were actually doing, ie ignoring cultural differences, and then ran away.
My argument is that you have no proof of your position other than "it happened in another country" which is not our country. You provide no stats with any correlation between gun confiscation and increase in gun violence.

The USA is very different in it's policy, our Constitution is very different and protects our right to bear arms, there is no possible way the government could round up all of our guns, no one with any credibility has suggested rounding up all our guns, we have no history of having our guns taken away (other than a couple isolated circumstances in which the guns were returned) and with a majority of the populace as gun owners the idea is frankly ridiculous and meant only to scare and rally a segment of the population against the democratic party. So in the end, the anti-gun-ban crowd is nothing more than a tool for political gains. Sad really, that Americans are so gullible.

Do you seriously think you got away from all this with much dignity intact?
Just because I don't have 3 guys attacking you and thanking me for every post I make doesn't mean I am wrong or have somehow lost dignity... that's just more of your dismissive tactic.
 
Just because I don't have 3 guys attacking you and thanking me for every post I make doesn't mean I am wrong or have somehow lost dignity... that's just more of your dismissive tactic.
Ya... you aren't wrong. Foos are teaming up against you. Someone has to argue the other view. That someone is you buddy.


Last thing America needs for sure though.. is a ban on guns. Last thing we need is tons of 16 year old gangbangers running around with handmade clothespin guns that fire 1 untraceable shot, even if they can get rid of all the illegal guns.
 
Ya... you aren't wrong. Foos are teaming up against you. Someone has to argue the other view. That someone is you buddy.


Last thing America needs for sure though.. is a ban on guns. Last thing we need is tons of 16 year old gangbangers running around with handmade clothespin guns that fire 1 untraceable shot, even if they can get rid of all the illegal guns.
And no one is proposing an all out federal ban on guns. Conversation closed.
 
My points weren't dodgy, at least that's not a criticism until now and I didn't "skulk" away or go away at all, I'm right here. So you're attempt at dismissal fail.
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My argument is that you have no proof of your position other than "it happened in another country" which is not our country. You provide no stats with any correlation between gun confiscation and increase in gun violence.
What position? What are you talking about? It was you that brought up my country to point at our gun murder rate.

The USA is very different in it's policy, our Constitution is very different and protects our right to bear arms, there is no possible way the government could round up all of our guns, no one with any credibility has suggested rounding up all our guns, we have no history of having our guns taken away (other than a couple isolated circumstances in which the guns were returned) and with a majority of the populace as gun owners the idea is frankly ridiculous and meant only to scare and rally a segment of the population against the democratic party. So in the end, the anti-gun-ban crowd is nothing more than a tool for political gains. Sad really, that Americans are so gullible.
Are you talking about the argument that it has happened in Britain and Australia and could happen in the US? You aren't even making much sense.

No one is saying it will happen, just that it could happen and vigilance must be applied. It is pretty common sense.

Just because I don't have 3 guys attacking you and thanking me for every post I make doesn't mean I am wrong or have somehow lost dignity... that's just more of your dismissive tactic.
Nope you have lost your dignity, you have been cranky and contribuyted little. You seem only to remain because you can't admit you have failed.
 
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