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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Gun registration has only historically ever led to confiscation.

    You have more faith in the government than most anyone if you believe that won't happen down the road.
    Really? It's never happened, say, that a bullet hole has been analyzed for its ballistic fingerprint, and that's been matched to records to see if matches any guns on record? It's never happened that a gun has been left at the scene of the crime, or found after being "disposed of", and used to track down its owner, the criminal? I think you're wrong.
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Really? It's never happened, say, that a bullet hole has been analyzed for its ballistic fingerprint, and that's been matched to records to see if matches any guns on record? It's never happened that a gun has been left at the scene of the crime, or found after being "disposed of", and used to track down its owner, the criminal? I think you're wrong.
    My statement stands, gun registration in terms of governmental power.. has only ever led to confiscation.

    Please re-read what I said.
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I know this may come as a huge shock to you, but there isn't just two monolithic sides, "pro-gun" and "anti-gun. I personally believe that people should be allowed to own guns....
    This really says it all -- 'people shoud be allowed to own guns, but with all kinds of restrictions'.

    This IS an anti-gun position, in that it ignores the protections afforded to the right to arms by the 2nd amendment.

    What is your interpretation of 'shall not be infringed', and how do the restrictions you support not fall within that interpretation?
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I know this may come as a huge shock to you, but there isn't just two monolithic sides, "pro-gun" and "anti-gun".
    Maybe not in the US right now but I've lived in Britain and Australia, I've seen where the anti-gun path can lead.

    It has got to point in both those countries where the pro-gun people, the pro-constitution(ie the bill of rights.) in Britain, are a very small minority all because the anti-gun policies, the stare and the anti-gun mentality gained ground.
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Maybe not in the US right now but I've lived in Britain and Australia, I've seen where the anti-gun path can lead.

    It has got to point in both those countries where the pro-gun people, the pro-constitution(ie the bill of rights.) in Britain, are a very small minority all because the anti-gun policies, the stare and the anti-gun mentality gained ground.
    From one of the horse's mouths... how does gun control work in your country?

    Is there less violence, robberies, rapes?
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    I'm going out on a limb here, and guessing liberals want gun owners to carry there guns here:

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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This really says it all -- 'people shoud be allowed to own guns, but with all kinds of restrictions'.

    This IS an anti-gun position, in that it ignores the protections afforded to the right to arms by the 2nd amendment.

    What is your interpretation of 'shall not be infringed', and how do the restrictions you support not fall within that interpretation?
    Infringe (from Webster's):
    Etymology: Medieval Latin infringere, from Latin, to break, crush, from in- + frangere to break — more at break Date: 1513 transitive verb1: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another <infringe a patent>2obsolete : defeat, frustrate
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    A Fox news liberal or a real liberal?
    It's best to just sort them out in the crosshairs.
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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    It's best to just sort them out in the crosshairs.


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    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Man Killed While Trying to Rob Alcoholics Anonymous Meeting

    Good for the armed, law abiding citizen. Multiple shots, multiple hits, = threat stopped, lives saved. This case is a prime example of why legal concealed carry is good for this nation.

    Although some of you really do know how to cut off your own nose to spite your face. Seriously. Here is a good example of someone who goes over the top in making a very poor "black and white" case about "gun control."
    Programs offering to buy guns from citizens, no questions asked, are not "taking guns" from citizens "through any means possible." You are dishonestly misrepresenting these programs or you are just ignorant of what the program is about. They aren't taking anything from anyone.

    Any citizen willing to sell his gun to someone else, regardless of who it is, is either engaging in fair trade or simply doesn't care about owning that gun. Gun owners who actually care about their weapons generally don't participate in gun turn-ins. If they have unwanted weapons they usually sell them for what they believe the value actually is, or trade them in on something they actually want. Sometimes they even give them to friends or family. These programs are aimed at "unwanted" guns. Get it? Guns the owners "don't want." Nobody drags these people in and forces this upon them, these folks do it voluntarily. Many of the guns turned in are stolen or possessed by people who aren't legally allowed to own them. That's why it's no questions asked. I have no problem with people turning in guns they don't want. Because it doesn't effect me in the least.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    It's best to just sort them out in the crosshairs.
    Can I get a "kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out" to go with that? Seriously, this isn't impressive. In fact it's quite ridiculous.

    When people like you make statements like this it makes responsible gun advocates cringe. Do the rest of us a favor, when you come up with what I am sure you think are brilliant comments like this, just shut up and move away from your keyboard.
    *insert profound statement here*

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