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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Frankly, I'm glad they didn't. Not every evildoer in the world is a criminal, and not every evildoer in the world merits the dignity of trial and the attached rights of an accused person.

    Pirates, terrorists, and the like....they are the epitome of the unlawful combatant, waging an undeclared war against the foundations of civilization itself. Justice is them being hunted down and killed like the subhuman scum that they are. They do not deserve trials, they do not deserve mercy, they do not deserve one second of life longer than the time it takes to get them lined up in a gun sight.

    Just a damn shame one of them is still breathing. That's the only blemish I see on this effort.
    I don't think they're "subhuman scum." They're very much human, trying to make ends meet for themselves in the third world, backwater hellhole they were born into. Most of these pirates act in an almost honorable way, virtually never killing (the death of the French hostage during the raid is the first I've heard of them actually killing someone) and never reneging on a deal. This was the exception rather than the rule, where the pirates took back one of their own without giving back the Captain. It could have secured them their lives, had the chosen to surrender and give up the captain. However, they decided to put a $2 million price tag on the captain's head and secured their own deaths instead. At least there was one of them sane enough to save his own life. God bless him.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    How in the world can you defend these useless people.They got what they deserved. They are stealing from people and threataning peoples lives.You do that you need to die. I am sure you would change your mind if you were on one of those ships. If more people in that part of the world world would work to try and make their country a better place instead of taking the easy money than they might not live in such a crap hole.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Man they whooped some ass.

    Glad they took their time and made sure to do it right. Best Easter his family has ever had, I'm sure, and I feel very happy for them.
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    I don't think they're "subhuman scum." They're very much human, trying to make ends meet for themselves in the third world, backwater hellhole they were born into. Most of these pirates act in an almost honorable way, virtually never killing (the death of the French hostage during the raid is the first I've heard of them actually killing someone) and never reneging on a deal. This was the exception rather than the rule, where the pirates took back one of their own without giving back the Captain. It could have secured them their lives, had the chosen to surrender and give up the captain. However, they decided to put a $2 million price tag on the captain's head and secured their own deaths instead. At least there was one of them sane enough to save his own life. God bless him.
    Piracy is NEVER an honorable act, and ALWAYS punishable by death. Thus has it always been.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Obama gave an order a few days ago that the naval commander was free to act if he felt the hostage life was threatened.
    Thats what occured. So the commander acted.

    The Commander acted..not Obama.
    Obama did not order the action be taken he left it to others. I also highly doubt he had any clue anything like this was going to occur and probably preferred it had not.


    Left to Obama the hostage would have joined the others hostages somewhere in Somalia.


    Good Job Seals/Navy/Commander on scene.
    Obama?...whatever.

    (I especially like how the new media push is Obama gave authorization twice!..and he ordered it....

    IN the morning it was the Naval Commander had acted at the moment with the Authorization given him by Obama.

    Two different things..BUT one of them doesn't make Obama the hero. SO a snip there an addition here and a slight change of wordage over there and the narcissist has his day.)
    LOL like the commander would have lifted a finger without Obama's authorization.... Seriously your hate for Obama is screaming through.. why dont you just say so instead of making crap up..

    oh btw why do you hate America?
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Piracy is NEVER an honorable act, and ALWAYS punishable by death. Thus has it always been.
    Wrong.

    First off there is no death penalty for piracy today in the west.

    Secondly even back in the hay day of piracy, immortalized by Hollywood movies, at first pirates were not "executed" always. It was only later when piracy was getting real bad, that most nations went over to the principle of execution without any real trial... that is if it was not their own pirates of course .
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Now, to enforce the lesson, the Navy should go on a two week hunting spress and sink anything that looks like a pirate vessel. And for good measure, we should bomb some locations in there ports.

    Yea bomb those ports, kill hundreds of innocent neutral civilians, right on!!

    Gunny, the beacon of diplomacy!

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Thank ****ng God.

    Glad this ordeal ended as it should have. No mercy for the Pirates. The 4th Pirate will be a nice way to get some information from, etc. etc.
    Nothing to do with God my friend. All to do with the professionalism of the guys on the scene.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Yea bomb those ports, kill hundreds of innocent neutral civilians, right on!!

    Gunny, the beacon of diplomacy!

    Paul
    Yea it did the US a load of good when it did that in Lebanon..
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Wrong.

    First off there is no death penalty for piracy today in the west.

    Secondly even back in the hay day of piracy, immortalized by Hollywood movies, at first pirates were not "executed" always. It was only later when piracy was getting real bad, that most nations went over to the principle of execution without any real trial... that is if it was not their own pirates of course .

    In English admiralty law, piracy was defined as petit treason during the medieval period, and offenders were accordingly liable to be drawn and quartered on conviction. Piracy was redefined as a felony during the reign of Henry VIII. In either case, piracy cases were cognizable in the courts of the Lord High Admiral. English admiralty vice-admiralty judges emphasized that "neither Faith nor Oath is to be kept" with pirates; i.e. contracts with pirates and oaths sworn to them were not legally binding. Pirates were legally subject to summary execution by their captors if captured in battle.
    Despite the abhorrence of many countries to capital punishment, execution for piracy seems like a logical and efficient deterrent to the problem. These are not honorable men. They currently hold 250 hostages, and are terrorizing not only commercial shipping but cruise ships and private yachts. Imprisonment in a Western facility would seem like paradise to them. I say scare the crap out of them with a few well timed raids, showing no mercy, until they all come to the decision that continued piracy has no advantage.

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