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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    -- Taking hostages and ransoming them is a form of terrorism. Not classic "islamic terrorism" but "terrorism" even by thier own agenda. Supposedly this is because we pollute thier waters or something.
    Well, the seas have been polluted and the toxic containers washed up by the tsunami showed that - however that isn't an excuse for what they have done. I also disagree both your versions of terrorism - islamic terrorism is still terrorism and piracy is not (either in the classic skull and crossbones or Somali pirate sense) terrorism. Not in the definitions I have seen.

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    -- "will"? isn't that a bit speculative.
    As speculative as sending troops on the ground or bombing from the air thinking that will solve the situation..

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    -- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...boom-town.html


    Pirates are building mansions, big cars, etc.
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    --I simply think you are overestimating the impact "interdiction" will have here.
    It's a policing matter to me - it can be dealt with by the military but from a policing perspective - not an "anti-terror" one though. I personally think that will simply drive them into the arms of Iran or the Sudanese. The pirates have (so far) not shown any link. Events may change that - I don't know.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Nonsense. This is an act of terrorism. Not "islamic" terrorism per say, but terrorism of opportunity. To call it a criminal activity is going to get Americans killed.
    This is the same tactic Clinton used with the WTC terrorists in 92, and one Obama vocally supports... treat terrorism as a criminal action to be handled through the courts.

    In fact the Libs in general have this view... treat terroristas as criminals... and run them through our courts.

    It is a mentality that will get more Americans killed.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    While terrorists and terrorism is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, these pirates were not terrorists. They were pirates, pirates aren't necessarily terrorists. They took hostages to get money, but taking hostages in and of itself doesn't make one a terrorist. The pirates weren't looking to change a system or take over, they wanted money. Thieves, yes. Terrorists, no.
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While terrorists and terrorism is a serious issue that needs to be addressed, these pirates were not terrorists. They were pirates, pirates aren't necessarily terrorists. They took hostages to get money, but taking hostages in and of itself doesn't make one a terrorist. The pirates weren't looking to change a system or take over, they wanted money. Thieves, yes. Terrorists, no.


    They wanted money and use justification of political issues to give themselves permission to do so.,
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They wanted money and use justification of political issues to give themselves permission to do so.,
    They're not terrorists. Terrorists use violence as a means to affect political change, usually the killing of non-combatants or destroying civilian infrastructure. These guys are pirates, plain and simple. Let's call a spade a spade.

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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They wanted money and use justification of political issues to give themselves permission to do so.,
    Exactly, pirates are known to be liars. Part of pirate life. They'll take any excuse they can come up with to "justify" their actions. But at the end of the day, it's clear that it's all about the money and that's it. Pirates like to break laws and steal and get money in any way possible. Makes them out of control capitalists, not terrorists. heheh.
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Proud day to be an American!
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

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    Proud day to be an American!
    It sure is, Devil505. It sure is. Welcome aboard. It's nice to see someone from Mass who isn't a liberal for a change.
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    They're not terrorists. Terrorists use violence as a means to affect political change, usually the killing of non-combatants or destroying civilian infrastructure. These guys are pirates, plain and simple. Let's call a spade a spade.
    A terrorist is someone causing terror.

    It does not have to be for political gain, and yes sir pirates are terrorists.

    Ask the European empires during the days of old, Pirates are most certainly terrorists.

    http://www.southchinasea.org/docs/Pu...Terrorists.pdf
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    Re: American captain rescued, pirates killed, U.S. official says

    Quote Originally Posted by thabigred View Post
    A terrorist is someone causing terror.
    That is an overly broad definition of terrorist, making many if not most of us that are reading this post "terrorists" - thus robbing the word of its meaning.

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