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Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

For the life of me, I cannot believe that there are actually members of this forum making excuses for or defending this. DP has some sick twisted freaks. Common people, take a stance, be bold, but please don't defend pedophilia.
 
For the life of me, I cannot believe that there are actually members of this forum making excuses for or defending this. DP has some sick twisted freaks. Common people, take a stance, be bold, but please don't defend pedophilia.

Who defends pedophilia here?
 
terrible custom as I posted above;)

Custom with a precedence in Islam. Muhammad himself. This disgusting so called custom is sanctioned by Islam through the pedophile prophets example.
 
Custom with a precedence in Islam. Muhammad himself. This disgusting so called custom is sanctioned by Islam through the pedophile prophets example.
I get it. You hate Islam. Those Christians are sooooo much better ;)
 
Who defends pedophilia here?

If you are not here defending this as you usually do when ever I post anything that is negative concerning muslims or there religion what the hell are you doing. Your own country is changing due to multiculturalism and political correctness. You should be doing everything you can to preserve your heritage and culture but you dont. You appease, you give up who you are out of self hatred and guilt.
 
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I get it. You hate Islam. Those Christians are sooooo much better ;)

No I don't hate Islam, and I am not a christian, noob. I recognise that Islam must go through a period of reformation just as Christianity did. Thankyou for your participation and welcome to DP.
 
Custom with a precedence in Islam. Muhammad himself. This disgusting so called custom is sanctioned by Islam through the pedophile prophets example.
So what if it is sanctioned by Islam?

In this country, the man would be arrested, tried, and imprisoned as a pedophile--no question about it.

Saudi Arabia is not this country. Saudi law is not US law. Saudi custom is not US custom.

I do not want them bringing their customs to the US. I therefore stop short of seeking to export our customs to them.
 
So what if it is sanctioned by Islam?

In this country, the man would be arrested, tried, and imprisoned as a pedophile--no question about it.

Saudi Arabia is not this country. Saudi law is not US law. Saudi custom is not US custom.

I do not want them bringing their customs to the US. I therefore stop short of seeking to export our customs to them.

So then because it is Saudi law which allows pedophilia I should be silent about it if I disagree. I am a proud member of Human Rights Watch and i make it my business when governments condone or promote abuse of the innocent members of there society.

Home | Human Rights Watch
 
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If you are not here defending this as you usually do when ever I post anything that is negative concerning muslims or there religion what the hell are you doing. Your own country is changing due to multiculturalism and political correctness. You should be doing everything you can to preserve your heritage and culture but you dont. You appease, you give up who you are out of self hatred and guilt.

Could you tell me where I said that pedophilia was OK?
 
So then because it is Saudi law which allows pedophilia I should be silent about it if I disagree. I am a proud member of Human Rights Watch and i make it my business when governments condone or promote abuse of the innocent members of there society.

Home | Human Rights Watch
So may I take it that you agree that its a good thing that concerned Saudi citizens have brought this terrible custom to the attention of Authority's, who are doing something to put it right? Heres that link again
The Ministry of Justice and other government departments are also preparing regulations to prevent the marriage of girls under the age of 14.
Saudi Gazette - Move to ban underage marriages
 
So then because it is Saudi law which allows pedophilia I should be silent about it if I disagree. I am a proud member of Human Rights Watch and i make it my business when governments condone or promote abuse of the innocent members of there society.

Home | Human Rights Watch

Good for you, but why do you post exclusively when it's Muslims doing bad things, and not when it's Indian people forcing a girl to marry a dog or when it's an Italian guy who rapes his daughters during 20 years and have kids with her?
 
Could you tell me where I said that pedophilia was OK?

You didn't, but you are here in this thread and most every thread that points to injustice and evil amongst muslims to try and convince other members that I am an Islamophobe. Why? could it be that you are defending Islam even when it is wrong. Well it is wrong in this instance and it needs to change. Many muslims agree with the fact that it needs to change. Please refer to the link below. Muslims Against Shria is a Islamic reform movement. Check it out. Keep an open mind.

Muslims Against Sharia
 
There is a big difference in a prepubescent girl of 8 and a 14 year old. 14 is way to young to get married IMO. But this guy is 47 she is 8, please tell me that you agree that this is just plain wrong.

Let's ask an American icon.

Jerry Lee Lewis said:
If they are over 13, then they are over the hill.
:mrgreen:
 
So then because it is Saudi law which allows pedophilia I should be silent about it if I disagree. I am a proud member of Human Rights Watch and i make it my business when governments condone or promote abuse of the innocent members of there society.
You have the right to speak your mind, and to articulate whatever values you hold dear. I do not seek your silence; I do not desire your silence.

I will, however, speak my mind, and articulate my values. My applicable value here is that peoples and nations, formed into distinct states and political entities, have the right to order their societies by whatever values they hold dear.

I do not say marrying 8 year old girls is a good thing, or that it is beneficial to Saudi society; in fact I am quite certain of the opposite. But if a Saudi judge says that the law allows, and said judge is acting as an objective arbiter of the law, then I do say the judge has done the right thing, that he has done his moral duty, and that it is up to the larger community to alter the law if they deem it unjust or immoral.

I do say that the Saudis have the right to decide for themselves what is just or unjust, what is moral or immoral.

I do say that you have the right to condemn such practice only because they have right to choose such practice.

I do say that I will stop short of casting aspersion on Saudis, or on Islam.

I do say that I will stop short of casting aspersion on the Prophet Mohammed by referring to him as a "pedophile".

I do say I will stop short of calling people "sick freaks" or claiming that Muslims "demonize" their own faith.

Thus I say, and thus is my business.
 
No I don't hate Islam, and I am not a christian, noob. I recognise that Islam must go through a period of reformation just as Christianity did. Thankyou for your participation and welcome to DP.
So, Christianity is all good now? :lol:

stop it, please.
 
You didn't

Then stop saying that I defend pedophilia

but you are here in this thread and most every thread that points to injustice and evil amongst muslims to try and convince other members that I am an Islamophobe. Why? could it be that you are defending Islam even when it is wrong. Well it is wrong in this instance and it needs to change. Many muslims agree with the fact that it needs to change. Please refer to the link below. Muslims Against Shria is a Islamic reform movement. Check it out. Keep an open mind.

Muslims Against Sharia

Already answered in posts 8, 10 and 36
 
So, Christianity is all good now? :lol:

stop it, please.


No, Christainity is not all good now. Christains are human and according to Romans 3:23 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. But Christains are not blowing themselfs up killing innocent people while shouting Allah Akbar (God is Great) are they. Christains are not hanging homosexuals in the public square because it goes against Islam as they do in Shia Islam Iran are they? I could go on and on with examples of muslims commiting atrocities in the name of Allah. Atrocities condoned by Islamic theocratic governments. Yes, a lot of evil **** was done in the name of christainity. But Christianity went through a reformation and so must Islam.

Carry on, i'll be in the area all day.
 
Lets start with the Grand Mufti. In Sunni muslim countries such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc. The Grand Mufti is the religious leader of that country. In Saudi Arabia Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh would be part of this hierarchy.

In Shia muslim countries such as Iran Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei who is the supreme leader with more power than the president is at the top of the Shia hierarchy in Iran.

Much like the pope is a christain religious leader, these men are islamic religious leaders.

Do you know what a hierarchy is or for that matter what a Grand Mufti is? Since you're being so completely a ridiculously dishonest in your assertion of what a Grand Mufti is and the role he plays in Islam I'll give you a clue. For there to be such a thing as an Islamic Hierarchy you'd have to establish that there is some sort of order from low to high. A Grand Mufti does not have control over Islamic populations or for that matter an opinion that supersedes those of Islamic Sharia courts or even Civil laws. Sunni Islam itself is non-Clerical therefor there can not exist any real hierarchy in Islam. In Saudi Arabia where Wahhabism is the leading form of Islam the Grand Mufti carries little power. This by itself does away with any assertion of an Islamic hierarchy.
 
No, Christainity is not all good now. Christains are human and according to Romans 3:23 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. But Christains are not blowing themselfs up killing innocent people while shouting Allah Akbar (God is Great) are they.
You are correct. Christians are blowing up Muslims and other innocent people while shouting Jesus is Lord.

Christains are not hanging homosexuals in the public square because it goes against Islam as they do in Shia Islam Iran are they?
No, but the religious right would if they knew they could get away with it....

I could go on and on with examples of muslims commiting atrocities in the name of Allah. Atrocities condoned by Islamic theocratic governments. Yes, a lot of evil **** was done in the name of christainity. But Christianity went through a reformation and so must Islam.
The problem with the militant wing of Christianity is they are ******s because they are too afraid to follow through on their convictions and die for what they believe, unlike the militant Muslims.

Carry on, i'll be in the area all day.

You realize that Christianity's reformation came by appointing God here on earth in the name of Jesus Christ, correct? So your answer is that Islam needs their God to send them a messiah? :lol:
 
You are correct. Christians are blowing up Muslims and other innocent people while shouting Jesus is Lord.

Please show a sorce such as a link for this unfounded accusation?


No, but the religious right would if they knew they could get away with it....

Are you a member of the religious right? If not please show me a link that supports your claim.


The problem with the militant wing of Christianity is they are ******s because they are too afraid to follow through on their convictions and die for what they believe, unlike the militant Muslims.

Are you saying that you are proud of militant muslims who are not ******s and follow there convictions and die for what they believe? Even if that means blowing up a bus or a pizza parlor full of women and children. And what about your hero's that strapped bombs to two women with downs syndrome and sent them into a pet market in Baghdad then detonated them killing innocent civilians including muslim women and children for Allah?

You realize that Christianity's reformation came by appointing God here on earth in the name of Jesus Christ, correct? So your answer is that Islam needs their God to send them a messiah? :lol

My answer is that moderate muslims need to take back there religion from the animals who have declared jihad on the west. They need to reform the Islamic text. And they need to try to co-exist peacefully with non-muslims everywhere.
 
But Christianity went through a reformation
Christianity has gone through several such phases:
  • The Great Schism of 1054.
  • The Protestant Reformation
  • The Radical Reformation
  • The Counter Reformation
  • The First Great Awakening (1730-1755)
  • The Second Vatican Council

That list is by no means complete or even comprehensive. It is, however, sufficient to demonstrate that "reformation", far from being a point even in the history of any religion, is an ongoing process. In Islam, the process of reformation is what led to the evolution of the Sunni and Shi'ite branches of Islam, what has led to the evolution of Sharia law, and--tragically--what has led in some corners of the world to the malignant fundamentalism espoused by the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and others.

In positing that Christianity's phase of reformation is done and Islam's is yet to be, you are positing a superiority of Christianity over Islam that is unmerited and wholly unsupportable.

Christianity still has its weaknesses, flaws, and corruptions. Islam has weaknesses, flaws and corruptions. All faiths have weaknesses, flaws, and corruptions. None is intrinsically superior to another. This is the order of things.
 
The issue at hand is one of absolute abuse. An 8 year old female lacks the tissue integrity to engage in any kind of intercourse; part of the problem with children being sexually abused is a lack of estrogen, which causes irreversible damage at a cellular level; not to mention mental anguish, deep pain and suffering. This isn't about bashing - it's about stating the FACTS. This is something that should sicken and alarm the entire world. These children, females, are at the lowest of the lowest spot on the totem pole in Saudi Arabia ... disrespected, unloved, lacking nurturing and any chance in the world to have a safe, secure existence. We are talking about a life, a wasted life, a life with an old man, and a child being used as a bartering pawn. This MUST be mentioned, plastered all over the front pages to bring awareness worldwide! It was stated in this report that this monster wouldn't have sex with her until she "was in puberty." As if this is to be accepted as a fair agreement ... both the father and the "groom" are equally sick and insane. This must be brought to the attention to the entire world. Let's pray for this girl, this country of radicals that need to be dealt with on an international level ... and not all Muslims are to blame; let's refrain from grouping them into one big group; let's not accept or turn a blind eye to these abused female children.
 
Again, let me add to my previous reply - this is about a little girl's LIFE - not about your issues with Islam vs. Christianity. That is getting too off-topic. Islam extremists are not Islam ... I am Christian, yet there are Christian extremists that shame our faith as well. I understand your point, let us all pray for this to come to a swift end and that this girl may be rescued from the hands of these roaches. No matter your faith, the world must stand against this abuse and assault on human rights.
 
Source: CNN
Date: April 12, 2009



Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old - CNN.com

Does this surprise anyone? After all this 47 year old man is simply following the example of the pedophile profit Muhammad. Muhammad himself was 47 when he consumated his marriage to nine year old Aisha. Needless to say the civilized world is outraged that this judge refuses for a 2nd time to annul this marriage. The sick twisted 47 year old man says he will not consumate the marriage until the girl reaches puberty.

I first read this story at the following link back in Aug 2008

Court to consider divorce for 8-year-old girl | World News | News.com.au

.... Why bring Prophet Mohammed up? :confused:

On topic, Saudi Arabia seriously needs to come to the 21st century. That is just disgusting
 
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