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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    You didn't
    Then stop saying that I defend pedophilia

    but you are here in this thread and most every thread that points to injustice and evil amongst muslims to try and convince other members that I am an Islamophobe. Why? could it be that you are defending Islam even when it is wrong. Well it is wrong in this instance and it needs to change. Many muslims agree with the fact that it needs to change. Please refer to the link below. Muslims Against Shria is a Islamic reform movement. Check it out. Keep an open mind.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    So, Christianity is all good now?

    stop it, please.

    No, Christainity is not all good now. Christains are human and according to Romans 3:23 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. But Christains are not blowing themselfs up killing innocent people while shouting Allah Akbar (God is Great) are they. Christains are not hanging homosexuals in the public square because it goes against Islam as they do in Shia Islam Iran are they? I could go on and on with examples of muslims commiting atrocities in the name of Allah. Atrocities condoned by Islamic theocratic governments. Yes, a lot of evil **** was done in the name of christainity. But Christianity went through a reformation and so must Islam.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Lets start with the Grand Mufti. In Sunni muslim countries such as Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc. The Grand Mufti is the religious leader of that country. In Saudi Arabia Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Al al-Sheikh would be part of this hierarchy.

    In Shia muslim countries such as Iran Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei who is the supreme leader with more power than the president is at the top of the Shia hierarchy in Iran.

    Much like the pope is a christain religious leader, these men are islamic religious leaders.
    Do you know what a hierarchy is or for that matter what a Grand Mufti is? Since you're being so completely a ridiculously dishonest in your assertion of what a Grand Mufti is and the role he plays in Islam I'll give you a clue. For there to be such a thing as an Islamic Hierarchy you'd have to establish that there is some sort of order from low to high. A Grand Mufti does not have control over Islamic populations or for that matter an opinion that supersedes those of Islamic Sharia courts or even Civil laws. Sunni Islam itself is non-Clerical therefor there can not exist any real hierarchy in Islam. In Saudi Arabia where Wahhabism is the leading form of Islam the Grand Mufti carries little power. This by itself does away with any assertion of an Islamic hierarchy.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    No, Christainity is not all good now. Christains are human and according to Romans 3:23 all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. But Christains are not blowing themselfs up killing innocent people while shouting Allah Akbar (God is Great) are they.
    You are correct. Christians are blowing up Muslims and other innocent people while shouting Jesus is Lord.

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    Christains are not hanging homosexuals in the public square because it goes against Islam as they do in Shia Islam Iran are they?
    No, but the religious right would if they knew they could get away with it....

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I could go on and on with examples of muslims commiting atrocities in the name of Allah. Atrocities condoned by Islamic theocratic governments. Yes, a lot of evil **** was done in the name of christainity. But Christianity went through a reformation and so must Islam.
    The problem with the militant wing of Christianity is they are pussies because they are too afraid to follow through on their convictions and die for what they believe, unlike the militant Muslims.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Carry on, i'll be in the area all day.
    You realize that Christianity's reformation came by appointing God here on earth in the name of Jesus Christ, correct? So your answer is that Islam needs their God to send them a messiah?

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyOnTheWall View Post
    You are correct. Christians are blowing up Muslims and other innocent people while shouting Jesus is Lord.
    Please show a sorce such as a link for this unfounded accusation?


    No, but the religious right would if they knew they could get away with it....
    Are you a member of the religious right? If not please show me a link that supports your claim.


    The problem with the militant wing of Christianity is they are pussies because they are too afraid to follow through on their convictions and die for what they believe, unlike the militant Muslims.
    Are you saying that you are proud of militant muslims who are not pussies and follow there convictions and die for what they believe? Even if that means blowing up a bus or a pizza parlor full of women and children. And what about your hero's that strapped bombs to two women with downs syndrome and sent them into a pet market in Baghdad then detonated them killing innocent civilians including muslim women and children for Allah?

    You realize that Christianity's reformation came by appointing God here on earth in the name of Jesus Christ, correct? So your answer is that Islam needs their God to send them a messiah? :lol
    My answer is that moderate muslims need to take back there religion from the animals who have declared jihad on the west. They need to reform the Islamic text. And they need to try to co-exist peacefully with non-muslims everywhere.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    But Christianity went through a reformation
    Christianity has gone through several such phases:
    • The Great Schism of 1054.
    • The Protestant Reformation
    • The Radical Reformation
    • The Counter Reformation
    • The First Great Awakening (1730-1755)
    • The Second Vatican Council


    That list is by no means complete or even comprehensive. It is, however, sufficient to demonstrate that "reformation", far from being a point even in the history of any religion, is an ongoing process. In Islam, the process of reformation is what led to the evolution of the Sunni and Shi'ite branches of Islam, what has led to the evolution of Sharia law, and--tragically--what has led in some corners of the world to the malignant fundamentalism espoused by the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and others.

    In positing that Christianity's phase of reformation is done and Islam's is yet to be, you are positing a superiority of Christianity over Islam that is unmerited and wholly unsupportable.

    Christianity still has its weaknesses, flaws, and corruptions. Islam has weaknesses, flaws and corruptions. All faiths have weaknesses, flaws, and corruptions. None is intrinsically superior to another. This is the order of things.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    The issue at hand is one of absolute abuse. An 8 year old female lacks the tissue integrity to engage in any kind of intercourse; part of the problem with children being sexually abused is a lack of estrogen, which causes irreversible damage at a cellular level; not to mention mental anguish, deep pain and suffering. This isn't about bashing - it's about stating the FACTS. This is something that should sicken and alarm the entire world. These children, females, are at the lowest of the lowest spot on the totem pole in Saudi Arabia ... disrespected, unloved, lacking nurturing and any chance in the world to have a safe, secure existence. We are talking about a life, a wasted life, a life with an old man, and a child being used as a bartering pawn. This MUST be mentioned, plastered all over the front pages to bring awareness worldwide! It was stated in this report that this monster wouldn't have sex with her until she "was in puberty." As if this is to be accepted as a fair agreement ... both the father and the "groom" are equally sick and insane. This must be brought to the attention to the entire world. Let's pray for this girl, this country of radicals that need to be dealt with on an international level ... and not all Muslims are to blame; let's refrain from grouping them into one big group; let's not accept or turn a blind eye to these abused female children.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Again, let me add to my previous reply - this is about a little girl's LIFE - not about your issues with Islam vs. Christianity. That is getting too off-topic. Islam extremists are not Islam ... I am Christian, yet there are Christian extremists that shame our faith as well. I understand your point, let us all pray for this to come to a swift end and that this girl may be rescued from the hands of these roaches. No matter your faith, the world must stand against this abuse and assault on human rights.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    isn't that religion bashing?
    It's not a religion. It's a child rape cult.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Source: CNN
    Date: April 12, 2009



    Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old - CNN.com

    Does this surprise anyone? After all this 47 year old man is simply following the example of the pedophile profit Muhammad. Muhammad himself was 47 when he consumated his marriage to nine year old Aisha. Needless to say the civilized world is outraged that this judge refuses for a 2nd time to annul this marriage. The sick twisted 47 year old man says he will not consumate the marriage until the girl reaches puberty.

    I first read this story at the following link back in Aug 2008

    Court to consider divorce for 8-year-old girl | World News | News.com.au
    .... Why bring Prophet Mohammed up?

    On topic, Saudi Arabia seriously needs to come to the 21st century. That is just disgusting


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