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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by AYA View Post
    You truly are a model of civility...
    Civility is for civilized people.

    People who allow 47 year-old pedophiles to marry 8 year-old children are NOT civilized.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is not what you said...

    "Oh that's good news! So you'll stop citing the old testament everytime you want to deny gays their rights? Hey I'll take that! And the 10 commandments are obviously moot now as well, good ridance." - Unrein

    So you did say it was me directly,
    "You" as in a group, Christians. You Christians.

    He fulfilled the prophecy pertaining to the messiah.
    Which prophecy? The prophecy that the apocalypse would happen in the life-time of the apostles? How did that turn out?And how do you know he fulfilled it?

    As for the rest, I don't know.
    I'll fill you in. They were failed prophecies. At some point, I believe it was Isaiah, says that the Nile river would dry up. Also, the city of Damascus was supposed to be destroyed, never happened. City still exists today, always has. It's actually a really beautiful, resilient city but, besides the point.

    Common sense. The temple was destroyed, so the old law no longer applys even to Jews as far as that goes.
    I don't see how a temple being destroyed co notates 'the old laws are moot now'.

    Also consider:
    "Matthew 5:18-19 (American Standard Version)
    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished."



    Because revelations is all about spiritual visions. Unless you believe a dragon etc will soon be coming to end the earth?
    Yeah, that's one way to put it, another would be 'nonsense' or 'superstition' or, that guy was stoned out of his mind.



    Holy misunderstanding Batman!

    "22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord."

    Again, sounds like a healthy spiritual marriage. Lets face it, if more men took the responsibility of being a husband and father seriously, this would not be any kind of an issue.

    "23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body."

    Normal sounding here. Please point out how being a good wife and following your husband is being a second class citizen?

    "24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing."

    The church is subject to Christ spiritualy not physically.
    Man they thought you this apologetics stuff really well didn't they?

    The bible is saying women should look at men the same way someone looks at God, that's not an equal relationship and that is CLEARLY and explicitly saying women are lesser then men (as men are lesser than god)

    And no, asserting the superiority of one individual to another is not 'the beginnings of a healthy relationship". I can't believe you are trying to defend blatant misogyny by claiming it's simply some innocent, hallmark spiritual sentiment.


    Come on, this stuff is indefendable:

    1 Tim. 2:11-14
    "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
    But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over themóbring them here and slaughter them in my presence. [spoken by Jesus as a parable] (Luke 19:27 NRS)
    Don't plan for the future. (Matthew 6:34)
    Don't save money. (Matthew 6:19-20)
    Don't become wealthy. (Mark 10:21-25)
    Sell everything and give it to the poor. (Luke 12:33)
    Don't work to obtain food. (John 6:27)
    Don't have sexual urges. (Matthew 5:28)
    If anyone comes to me without hating his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and even his own life, he can not be my disciple. (Luke 14:26 NAB)

    And it was in the third hour, and they crucified him.
    - Mark 25:3-4

    And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, behold your king... Shall I crucify your king?
    - John 19:14-15

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    "You" as in a group, Christians. You Christians.



    Which prophecy? The prophecy that the apocalypse would happen in the life-time of the apostles? How did that turn out?And how do you know he fulfilled it?



    I'll fill you in. They were failed prophecies. At some point, I believe it was Isaiah, says that the Nile river would dry up. Also, the city of Damascus was supposed to be destroyed, never happened. City still exists today, always has. It's actually a really beautiful, resilient city but, besides the point.



    I don't see how a temple being destroyed co notates 'the old laws are moot now'.

    Also consider:
    "Matthew 5:18-19 (American Standard Version)
    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished."





    Yeah, that's one way to put it, another would be 'nonsense' or 'superstition' or, that guy was stoned out of his mind.





    Man they thought you this apologetics stuff really well didn't they?

    The bible is saying women should look at men the same way someone looks at God, that's not an equal relationship and that is CLEARLY and explicitly saying women are lesser then men (as men are lesser than god)

    And no, asserting the superiority of one individual to another is not 'the beginnings of a healthy relationship". I can't believe you are trying to defend blatant misogyny by claiming it's simply some innocent, hallmark spiritual sentiment.


    Come on, this stuff is indefendable:
    #1 You have very little understanding of anything biblical or what is accepted in context, in the Bible. I am not going to sit here and give you a Bible study. Your reasoning is just stupid and makes little sense.

    You try and say prophecy's that have not happened yet are not true because they have not happened??

    #2 Your interpretations of certain scripture is just dead wrong and you don't care, so I don't care if you get it right or not. Trying to tell you is a waist of my time at this point.

    #3 You are trying to compare someones personal life to governmental law.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Civility is for civilized people.

    People who allow 47 year-old pedophiles to marry 8 year-old children are NOT civilized.
    Oh get over it already.

    History will not change and no, i do not defend pedophilia as an act but to say Islam teaches pedophilia is ignorant.


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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    isn't that religion bashing?
    Might be; if any of the world's religions is in need of bashing, its Islam...
    But the, why is it that our nation cares and worries so much about other nations.
    We must stop trying to spread and promote our rights, ideals, particularly democracy...
    When nations ,mainly Islamic ones ,are ready for democracy and human rights, they will let us know...

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    You always wonder why I attack Islamic law ---- this case is a perfect example of why Islam CANNOT be allowed to govern anywhere EVER for ANY reason.
    I do not want any religion having a hand in politics. Theocracy brings little and damages alot.


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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Just ignore him, it will help you in the long run around here.
    Cease your ad hom attacks.

    My opinion is as valid as yours.

    If you cannot accept this fact, you can leave.

    Laila --- have the courage to respond; if not, please refrain from brown-nosing.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I do not want any religion having a hand in politics. Theocracy brings little and damages alot.
    I quite agree.

    And I might add --- nicely put!


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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Oh get over it already.

    History will not change and no, i do not defend pedophilia as an act but to say Islam teaches pedophilia is ignorant.
    Islam doesn't teach it ... but apparently Islam allows and encourages it.


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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Laila --- have the courage to respond; if not, please refrain from brown-nosing.
    Respond to the thread? I thought i had ... o.O


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