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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Are you aware that most of the Islamic world resides in countries that are developed and don't follow such stone age traditions?
    Actually, people like Sgt. seem to be under the impression that the entire Islamic world is like Afghanistan. The reality is, what is now the Islamic middle east is where civilization was invented. Much of the great scientific and mathmatical knowledge was pioneered by those people. And some of the most beautiful cities and architecture exists over there on the Arabian peninsula. Places like Dubai, Yemen, etc.

    http://travel.nationalgeographic.com...o_lg_yemen.jpg
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...ages/dubai.jpg
    http://travel.nationalgeographic.com...to_lg_oman.jpg

    Sure, I don't really appreciate that women are running around in costumes, and I detest the Islamic religion like do all religions, but there seems to be a misconception that this entire area is all a back-woods 3rd world ghetto, which is a bunch of s#it.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    People who need to 'attack' Islam in the same respect, are morons. If you want to call one religions prophet a pedophile, don't get pissed when people contrast it with your religion. Don't cast stones, he who livith in a glass house.
    Bull****. I personally am a defender of the ancient and rich tradition of Islam and the Arabs but I do get pissed off that morons keep completely stupidly and irrelevantly attacking Christianity when some other moron attacks Islam. There is no need for it, it serves no purpose and is retarded.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Bull****. I personally am a defender of the ancient and rich tradition of Islam and the Arabs but I do get pissed off that morons keep completely stupidly and irrelevantly attacking Christianity when some other moron attacks Islam. There is no need for it, it serves no purpose and is retarded.
    It does serve a purpose, balance. I don't want to promote the idea that only Islam is stupid and corrupt, when they all are. So again, glass houses and stones.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    It does serve a purpose, balance. I don't want to promote the idea that only Islam is stupid and corrupt, when they all are. So again, glass houses and stones.
    It serves the purpose of being your soapbox otherwise it is completely irrelevant for the thread. What Islam is can and should be viewed in isolation of moronic attacks on Christianity or religion in general. It serves in no sense as "balance" but in fact adds to the side of idiocy.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    This is totally disgusting and the prophet Muhammad set the example for these perverts. Why people continue to make excusses for this is beyond me.
    Prophet Mohammed did nothing wrong 2,000 years ago and he set no such precedence - Child marriages was understandable in a era of infant mortality and the human liferate.
    Islam does not teach pedophilia, no matter how much you wish it did Sgt.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Well obviously not, but people debate history all the time. And considering history is repeating itself right now with this 47 year old creep who wants to marry an 8 year old little girl, it's pretty darned relevent.

    We can only surmise the psychological damage it did to that little girl 2,000 years ago. Physically, we know intercourse with someone that small would have likely damaged her vagina.

    I don't mean any disrespect to your prophet, Laila. Clearly you have a love and admiration for him. I just think marriage to a child is grotesque. I think I'm entitled to believe that.
    Families who conduct in child marraiges are usually very uneducated people, who think as soon as the girl bleeds she is ready to haev children. They don't know that it will damage the child's frame of mind (they probably don' t know of pyschology). They don't know that the girls body is unable to take the burden of pregnency or the act of sexual intercourse. They are uneducated.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It does to me.

    Damn right she was, a very good wife too y'know.
    The thing is, it doesn't make sense for a peadophile to marry a child of 8. Sure maybe the paedophile can get some sick pleasure for a few years, but children grow up fast, especially girls. It wouldn't make sense to commit a marriage for the sake that she is 8 years old.

    But 8 years old is too young to get married.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    GarzaUK with his usual diversion tactic away from this particular case is attempting to convince us that this happens all over the world amongst many cultures including our own with the likes of Warren Jeffs and such. That may be true and poverty may be part of it. But we are not discussing any other cases or stats on child marriage. This thread is about a specific story. So Garza stop with the typical diversion tactics. We can see right through your agenda of appeasment and excuse making. This case has everyhting to do with religion and nothing to do with poverty.
    LOL nice. We BOTH find child marriage terrible. However you went about it as "Look at ISLAM, what a fould religion, promoting child marraige. Ewwww."

    My argument is that is poverty that promotes child marriages. And clearly as I have shown with EVIDENCE, that christains, hindi and buddhist people conduct in child marriage. Where is your outcry against these faiths Sgt Rock?? I have shown you data that povery is responsible.

    This is weak Sgt Rock. W E A K. Face it I caught you and your agenda out.

    I don't like Islam. I find some of its teachings awful. But I am passionate for the truth and knowledge. And the promotion of child marriage cannot be blamed on Islam.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    Oh that's good news! So you'll stop citing the old testament everytime you want to deny gays their rights? Hey I'll take that! And the 10 commandments are obviously moot now as well, good ridance.
    Please point out where I used the OT to deny anyone anything? Please don't lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    You know, the NT was also written for the same people, 2000 years ago as well. So I might just say the NT has no bearing on you either.
    No it was not. The people from the OT were long dead. Guess you did not know this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    Jesus actually says that he is not here to change the old laws, which clearly means he thinks they should still be in effect, no? I will grant you this though, I'am not aware of any NT in which he actively demands other people to kill children, but he does threaten it himself at one point.

    Matthews 5:17
    Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.

    Revelation 2:23
    And I will kill her children with pestilence, and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your deeds.
    #1 He fulfilled the prophecy's and made a new covenant. The old laws no longer apply to anyone.

    #2 He was speaking spiritually not physically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrein View Post
    Now here is more New Testament goodness:
    Ummm... None of those quotes have anything even remotely to do with anything other than your own lack of understanding.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    LOL nice. We BOTH find child marriage terrible. However you went about it as "Look at ISLAM, what a fould religion, promoting child marraige. Ewwww."

    My argument is that is poverty that promotes child marriages. And clearly as I have shown with EVIDENCE, that christains, hindi and buddhist people conduct in child marriage. Where is your outcry against these faiths Sgt Rock?? I have shown you data that povery is responsible.

    This is weak Sgt Rock. W E A K. Face it I caught you and your agenda out.

    I don't like Islam. I find some of its teachings awful. But I am passionate for the truth and knowledge. And the promotion of child marriage cannot be blamed on Islam.
    Once again Garza, we are talking about a specific case of child marriage here. I agree that child marriage in general is reprehensible to say the least. For some reason you have difficulty discussing this specific case which has nothing to do with poverty and everything to do with a culture which condones abuse towards women and children. And a religion in which there prophet set the example. Please lets discuss this story, Thankyou.
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