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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not the norm no, i was merely making the point it is not unheard of.

    Well 2,000 years ago, i don't think we knew what damage it would do to a child. It was a chapter of history. It occured, do people think attacking it will somehow turn back the clock to that period?
    That doesn't make him any less of a pedophile.

    pedophilia: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

    Remember, Ayesha was Mohammed's "favorite wife."

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    That doesn't make him any less of a pedophile.

    pedophilia: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

    Remember, Ayesha was Mohammed's "favorite wife."
    It does to me.

    Damn right she was, a very good wife too y'know.


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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not the norm no, i was merely making the point it is not unheard of.

    Well 2,000 years ago, i don't think we knew what damage it would do to a child. It was a chapter of history. It occured, do people think attacking it will somehow turn back the clock to that period?
    Well obviously not, but people debate history all the time. And considering history is repeating itself right now with this 47 year old creep who wants to marry an 8 year old little girl, it's pretty darned relevent.

    We can only surmise the psychological damage it did to that little girl 2,000 years ago. Physically, we know intercourse with someone that small would have likely damaged her vagina.

    I don't mean any disrespect to your prophet, Laila. Clearly you have a love and admiration for him. I just think marriage to a child is grotesque. I think I'm entitled to believe that.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Well obviously not, but people debate history all the time. And considering history is repeating itself right now with this 47 year old creep who wants to marry an 8 year old little girl, it's pretty darned relevent.

    We can only surmise the psychological damage it did to that little girl 2,000 years ago. Physically, we know intercourse with someone that small would have likely damaged her vagina.
    Not to mention, if she really was menstrual (which I seriously doubt) and had by the grace of God managed to conceive a child, the likely outcome would have been death for both her and the child. There's a reason we're not attracted to children.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Not to mention, if she really was menstrual (which I seriously doubt) and had by the grace of God managed to conceive a child, the likely outcome would have been death for both her and the child. There's a reason we're not attracted to children.
    Child-birth has nothing to do with the grace of God. It is a natural biological process.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by AYA View Post
    Child-birth has nothing to do with the grace of God. It is a natural biological process.
    You get what I'm saying.... I hope.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by AYA View Post
    Child-birth has nothing to do with the grace of God. It is a natural biological process.
    Not necessarily. There are unexplained medical miracles every day. Child birth, conception .... etc have everything to do with the grace of God.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Well obviously not, but people debate history all the time. And considering history is repeating itself right now with this 47 year old creep who wants to marry an 8 year old little girl, it's pretty darned relevent.

    We can only surmise the psychological damage it did to that little girl 2,000 years ago. Physically, we know intercourse with someone that small would have likely damaged her vagina.

    I don't mean any disrespect to your prophet, Laila. Clearly you have a love and admiration for him. I just think marriage to a child is grotesque. I think I'm entitled to believe that.
    Chuck, this man is allready married to the 8 year old girl in question. The Judge has ordered him not to consumate the marriage until she reaches puberty. The girls father was in debt to this creep so he offerd his daughter in payment. IMO all of the men involved in this including the judge are the lowest form of scum. This is totally disgusting and the prophet Muhammad set the example for these perverts. Why people continue to make excusses for this is beyond me.

    GarzaUK with his usual diversion tactic away from this particular case is attempting to convince us that this happens all over the world amongst many cultures including our own with the likes of Warren Jeffs and such. That may be true and poverty may be part of it. But we are not discussing any other cases or stats on child marriage. This thread is about a specific story. So Garza stop with the typical diversion tactics. We can see right through your agenda of appeasment and excuse making. This case has everyhting to do with religion and nothing to do with poverty.
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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Breasts, pubes & blood = woman

    No breasts, pubes & blood = little girl
    Clearly an 8 year old is in no position to be a wife. Howeverl I disagree with the gross over simplification of the "if there's grass on the field play ball," mentality.

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    Re: Saudi judge upholds man's marriage to 8-year-old

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    You get what I'm saying.... I hope.
    Heh.. The reason I asked (a perfectly on-topic question, btw) is because I was afraid you would say something ludicrous.. you know, an utterly false statement like the one that follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck
    Not necessarily. There are unexplained medical miracles every day. Child birth, conception .... etc have everything to do with the grace of God.
    SgtRock: I am not going to start this statement with the obligatory "I agree that this is wrong, but...." line because, clearly, this is a horrific violation of fundamental human rights and I understand (nay, hope) that everyone believes that it is so.

    Still, you are oversimplifying this case. Believe me, I've been following it for two years now, and it is so convoluted that I'm still digging into it. First of all, there is the issue of the judge's previous ruling, which allowed for the annulment of the marriage and then, when that annulment was in the process of being executed, was suddenly withdrawn and replaced with the current ruling. Then, there is the case of sect, local power politics, and KSA-wide power politics which I shall not delve into here.

    I have my hunches as to why the Saudi legal system is destroying this girl's life but, regardless of why it's doing so, it's an ugly manifestation of racism, sexism, and misogyny that, unfortunately, is common in this God-forsaken Kingdom.

    Still, you support them knowing full well that this is NOT the only ugly case to come out of Saudi. The devil you know and all that Kissinger-esque horsesh*t. You made your own bed when it comes to MENA. Now lie in it.
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