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Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

mikhail said:
FRom an outsiders percpective it seems to me America seems to focus on race so much it always result in a racial divide on opinion.Could it not just be the police ****ed up? Has this never happened to a white man in a similar scenario.
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It could even be the cops are telling the truth and the crowd is lying. Gee, that's never happened before. White cops have never been railroaded by black agitators before, not in America!
 
American said:
Why does it always seem that the blacks on messageboards are the ones running around measuring every word with a black ruler? I mean if they want bigotry to go away, shouldn't they be the last ones to bring any such implications up?
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Because other ethnic groups never make bigoted statements like "Why does it always seem that the blacks on messageboards are the ones running around measuring every word with a black ruler?

As far as bringing up bigotry, everyone has some bigotry, No one is guiltless regardless of race.
 
jallman said:
Because being a victim is so much less work than just growing the **** up and moving on.
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Hundreds of years of oppression and bigotry are just so easy to get over you see. :roll:

In 1870 the 15th Amendment was passed: 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

This was a good start, but it did not last long. Unfortunately this only applied to men 21 and older. In order to limit voting rights states implemented all kinds of tests and other criteria which had to be passed in order to vote. in 1965 Lyndon Johnson proposed "The Voting Rights Act of 1965" limiting the power of states to change their voting laws to restrict who could vote. It wasn't until the early 70's however that most blacks were able to actually vote freely.

The right to even vote was not changed until 30 years ago for Blacks (in comparison to whites) and lets not even go into the "Jim Crow" era as a whole.

This is no excuse for the "ghetto culture" or "white man holding me down" garbage. There is cause and affect here though, and it was not that long ago.
 
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TOJ said:
Don't paint with such a broad brush. You may not know the race and/or ethnicity of some members. ;)


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I think my point is quite valid no matter who is what. Whether we have one black member or hundreds, I've been on enough messageboards to see the pattern. But thanks for the advice. Besides, it's not a broad brush at all, if you read my post correctly.
 
Blackdog said:
Hundreds of years of oppression and bigotry are just so easy to get over you see. :roll:
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We've all had our crosses to bear. To continue using racism and bigotry as an excuse, only leads us back to the boy who cried wolf, after awhile, people stop listening.
 
Blackdog said:
Hundreds of years of oppression and bigotry are just so easy to get over you see. :roll:

In 1870 the 15th Amendment was passed: 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

This was a good start, but it did not last long. Unfortunately this only applied to men 21 and older. In order to limit voting rights states implemented all kinds of tests and other criteria which had to be passed in order to vote. in 1965 Lyndon Johnson proposed "The Voting Rights Act of 1965" limiting the power of states to change their voting laws to restrict who could vote. It wasn't until the early 70's however that most blacks were able to actually vote freely.

The right to even vote was not changed until 30 years ago for Blacks (in comparison to whites) and lets not even go into the "Jim Crow" era as a whole.

This is no excuse for the "ghetto culture" or "white man holding me down" garbage. There is cause and affect here though, and it was not that long ago.
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Why do you call yourself a Constitutionalist?
 
MrVicchio said:
No, I look at historical equivilents of the same thing Obama is trying, has been or is being tried elsewhere... ain't working there, why would it work here?


Nice try though.
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What specifically are you comparing it to?

Hatuey said:
I've been here for years and 15,000 ****ing posts. Look up my posts so I don't have to tell somebody who's been here for like 2 and a half consecutive months and less then 1/10th of my posts where I live. The only troll around these parts is you my Louisiana son.
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Hey man, fun and exciting flame you've caused. Not surprised how it's turning out, you black-hating prick. So, old buddy, where are you from?

Wessexman said:
You mean it's like LA or San Francisco?
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SF is one of the most beautiful cities in America. It's laid out fairly well, and has managed to largely avoid sprawl. It has some beautiful architecture, like the TransAmerica building, Coit Tower, and the bridges. The weather is some of the nicest around. And most of the people, though you may not agree with their lifestyle, are pretty nice. To say nothing of its role as an artistic and cultural hub.

LA is a complete and utter **** hole, though. I really can't argue there.
 
GottaHurt said:
We've all had our crosses to bear. To continue using racism and bigotry as an excuse, only leads us back to the boy who cried wolf, after awhile, people stop listening.
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Taken out of context with my last sentence you could have made a point. I already covered this.

And no, until you really experience being treated as a second class citizen, you really don't know cross or not.

I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job. I have had people cross to the other side of the street and been run out of Bridgeport Illinois by the police for being black.

You can pretend it does not exist, but it does. It is no where near as bad as when my parents were coming up, but don't pretend it is not happening today. Or try and say any time someone says "racism" based on nothing more than the fact they are black it is someone crying wolf.
 
American said:
Why do you call yourself a Constitutionalist?
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What does this have to do with what I said? That is for another thread.

PS Because I actually am.
 
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Blackdog said:
Taken out of context with my last sentence you could have made a point. I already covered this.

And no, until you really experience being treated as a second class citizen, you really don't know cross or not.

I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job. I have had people cross to the other side of the street and been run out of Bridgeport Illinois by the police for being black.

You can pretend it does not exist, but it does. It is no where near as bad as when my parents were coming up, but don't pretend it is not happening today. Or try and say any time someone says "racism" based on nothing more than the fact they are black it is someone crying wolf.
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It's easy for people who cannot relate to dismiss what they fail to comprehend. Great post, but I feel as though it falls on deaf ears.

Side anecdote: I was at lunch the other day when someone drove through the parking lot in a big truck and yelled a racial slur at a black customer. He laughed and shook his head. I walked over to him and told him that I apologized for the ignorant man's actions. He kindly thanked me and shook my hand. It was odd, because I've never felt ashamed to be white until I saw firsthand another white individual spew some racist nonsense.
 
EgoffTib said:
It's easy for people who cannot relate to dismiss what they fail to comprehend. Great post, but I feel as though it falls on deaf ears.

Side anecdote: I was at lunch the other day when someone drove through the parking lot in a big truck and yelled a racial slur at a black customer. He laughed and shook his head. I walked over to him and told him that I apologized for the ignorant man's actions. He kindly thanked me and shook my hand. It was odd, because I've never felt ashamed to be white until I saw firsthand another white individual spew some racist nonsense.
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Does not matter if they are deaf or not. It needed to be said.

You should not be ashamed of what that dumb ass did, it is no reflection on you. I don't let "ghetto behavior" reflect on who I am and judge each individual by his actions.

Thanks.
 
Blackdog said:
Does not matter if they are deaf or not. It needed to be said.
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I concur.

You should not be ashamed of what that dumb ass did, it is no reflection on you. I don't let "ghetto behavior" reflect on who I am and judge each individual by his actions.

Thanks.
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It was just for a split second that I felt ashamed. That feeling then turned to pity for the racist, who seems to hate or love people based solely on skin color. What a sad way to live life.
 
the makeout hobo said:
Hey man, fun and exciting flame you've caused. Not surprised how it's turning out, you black-hating prick. So, old buddy, where are you from?
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I love it. According to the geniuses on this thread. I'm both a black hater and a race baiter. It is a very delicious but consistently inconsistent pastry.
 
Hatuey said:
I love it. According to the geniuses on this thread. I'm both a black hater and a race baiter. It is a very delicious but consistently inconsistent pastry.
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Well being a conservative I can still say I am firmly in the Chris Rock category of "nigga" vs "black."

Seen it way to much and have no tolerance for that stupidity from anyone anymore.
 
Blackdog said:
Well being a conservative I can still say I am firmly in the Chris Rock category of "nigga" vs "black."

Seen it way to much and have no tolerance for that stupidity from anyone anymore.
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I totally understand where you're coming from. Louisiana manages to combine two things I hate.Retarded white people and retarded black people.

White people who live in Louisiana seem to be happy and I'm guessing it's because most of them while in school never truly understood that they live in a state with enough of a racist past to write 3 or 4 encyclopedias.

While black people from Louisiana seem to be happy and I'm guessing it's because most of them didn't stay in school long enough to find out that their state has enough of a racist past to write 3 or 4 encyclopedia.

It's one of those states that can safely be referred to as a catch-22. You can't win with the whites. You can't win with the blacks. Why? Because neither of them understand what game you're playing.
 
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Hatuey said:
I totally understand where you're coming from. Louisiana manages to combine two things I hate.Retarded white people and retarded black people.

White people who live in Louisiana seem to be happy and I'm guessing it's because most of them while in school never truly understood that they live in a state with enough of a racist past to write 3 or 4 encyclopedias.

While black people from Louisiana seem to be happy and I'm guessing it's because most of them didn't stay in school long enough to find out that their state has enough of a racist past to write 3 or 4 encyclopedia.

It's one of those states that can safely be referred to as a catch-22. You can't win with the whites. You can't win with the blacks. Why? Because neither of them understand what game you're playing.
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Please post links and evidence that explains your bigotry, thanks
 
Blackdog said:
Taken out of context with my last sentence you could have made a point. I already covered this.

And no, until you really experience being treated as a second class citizen, you really don't know cross or not.

I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job. I have had people cross to the other side of the street and been run out of Bridgeport Illinois by the police for being black.

You can pretend it does not exist, but it does. It is no where near as bad as when my parents were coming up, but don't pretend it is not happening today. Or try and say any time someone says "racism" based on nothing more than the fact they are black it is someone crying wolf.
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Racism & bigotry are not unique to the black race. Racism & bigotry exist all over the world, and know no bounderies. Racism & bigotry will never be eliminated.

I roll my eyes and shake my head when I hear people like you cling to your Plight of the Black Man stories.

Get over it already, it's 2009. There's nothing fair about life, or the playing field. You make the most of it, and don't squander opportunity.

Really, it's that simple.
 
GottaHurt said:
Racism & bigotry are not unique to the black race. Racism & bigotry exist all over the world, and know no bounderies. Racism & bigotry will never be eliminated.

I roll my eyes and shake my head when I hear people like you cling to your Plight of the Black Man stories.

Get over it already, it's 2009. There's nothing fair about life, or the playing field. You make the most of it, and don't squander opportunity.

Really, it's that simple.
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Your statements get more and more moronic with each word you type. Please explane how this "This is no excuse for the "ghetto culture" or "white man holding me down" garbage. There is cause and affect here though, and it was not that long ago." translates into the stupidity you continue to spew?

During the revolution I guess the founders should have just "gotten over it". :roll:
 
Blackdog said:
What does this have to do with what I said? That is for another thread.

PS Because I actually am.
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Then maybe I misunderstood your earlier point.
 
GottaHurt said:
Still clinging to Plight of the Black Man. :lamo
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No. Understanding what you read is fundamental.

If that is the best you can come up with, we are done here troll. :roll:
 
Blackdog said:
No. Understanding what you read is fundamental.

If that is the best you can come up with, we are done here troll. :roll:
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Blackdog, I think I misunderstood your point as well. I took it as something similar to what Gottahurt said. Maybe you wouldn't mind clearing that up? Thanks.
 
American said:
Blackdog, I think I misunderstood your point as well. I took it as something similar to what Gottahurt said. Maybe you wouldn't mind clearing that up? Thanks.
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My statement is about "cause and effect."

You and him seem to think there is no cause so we need to just "get over it," this is ignorance at it's best.

Before you can fix something you have to admit there is a problem. Then and only then can it be fixed.

PS This does not excuse racism on the part of blacks or criminality, it is merely the symptom of a larger social problem within the black community.
 
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Hatuey said:
I love it. According to the geniuses on this thread. I'm both a black hater and a race baiter. It is a very delicious but consistently inconsistent pastry.
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If you're not a race baiter, then why do you bait? Why do you get your black ruler out, and bring the race card in?
 
Kali said:
I feel there should be groups set up in every town to police the police cause they damn sure are not gonna police themselves in an objective manner:(
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Internal affairs, Police commissioner, or the associated press, they all do a good job overall at policing the police.
 
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