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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It was the final step, not the first.

    We have:

    Black USSC Justices.
    Black Congressthings (which isn't a racist statement, all members of Congress are things, IMO)
    Black Senators
    Black Senatorettes (former welfare queen, too)
    Black Attorney General.
    Black Surgeon General.
    Black Governors.
    Black Secretaries of State.
    Black Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    Black cops.
    Black firepersons.
    Black doctors.
    Black lawyers.
    Black engineers.
    Black Oscar winners.
    Black Grammy winners.
    Black CEO's.
    Black generals.

    ANYTHING a white man can do, blacks not only have equal opportunity to do, they've pretty much excelled at every field of endeavor on an equal basis with whites.

    Except that whites still have to compete with the racist and unfair Affirmative Action programs. We have white firemen suing because they were passed over for promotion because they're not black. The Los Angeles Fire Department several years back had an open application day. White people were told not to bother applying.

    Colleges have quotas for races. Can't say they're not racist still. Qualified whites get rejected solely on the basis of race.

    So lets drop the "poor little black" routine in politics, and end racism, period.

    For the case in the OP, I don't see the racism. A man interfered with an arrest. White people get shot doing that, too.
    End racism?

    Racism will never be eradicated. People of all races will continue to harbor their own personal judgments on people of different races based on poorly constructed stereotypes. And no, I'm not denying that racism doesn't exist against white people because it does. But to act like the plight of the white man as far as Affirmative Action goes to 400 years of racism is just silly. I also had no "poor little black" routine. I merely said that while black people shouldn't wallow in the past and continue to make excuses for it via the Jackson/Sharpton rhetoric, they also shouldn't bury their heads in the sand and pretend that it didn't happen.

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Nah, a simple observation of someone who blames others for their inability to assimilate into our society.
    Does not really make your comment any less stupid.

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    Yeah, I've been hearing the same nonsense for the last several decades. Different messenger, same message.
    Not really. You have proved beyond all reasonable doubts you have no clue.

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    Yeah, whatever.
    Truth hurts.

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    I know, it makes you a one legged man in an ass kicking contest. You can't blame slavery on the white man, and point out social issues that some black people might have because of it.

    The origins of slavery in Africa are indeed revelant to slavery in Amerca.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    End racism?

    Racism will never be eradicated. People of all races will continue to harbor their own personal judgments on people of different races based on poorly constructed stereotypes. And no, I'm not denying that racism doesn't exist against white people because it does. But to act like the plight of the white man as far as Affirmative Action goes to 400 years of racism is just silly. I also had no "poor little black" routine. I merely said that while black people shouldn't wallow in the past and continue to make excuses for it via the Jackson/Sharpton rhetoric, they also shouldn't bury their heads in the sand and pretend that it didn't happen.

    Who cares?

    The important part is that government isn't racist, except when it comes to discrminating against whites.

    If a privately owned company doesn't want to hire a minority, for totally racist reasons, guess what? It's supposed to be a free country, they're supposed to be able to run their business their way. If that means they don't hire skilled employees, it's their problem.

    If a privately owned company doesn't want to serve a minority, for totally racist reasons, guess what? It's supposed to be a free country, they're supposed to be able to run their business their way. If that means they turn away customers, it's their problem.

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Who cares?

    The important part is that government isn't racist, except when it comes to discrminating against whites.
    This is true. Affirmative action in the workplace and school needs to go now.

    It helped back in the day. Now it is just a tear in the racial divide and supports reverse discrimination as far as I am concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If a privately owned company doesn't want to hire a minority, for totally racist reasons, guess what? It's supposed to be a free country, they're supposed to be able to run their business their way. If that means they don't hire skilled employees, it's their problem.
    I would have no problem with company's hiring as they see fit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    If a privately owned company doesn't want to serve a minority, for totally racist reasons, guess what? It's supposed to be a free country, they're supposed to be able to run their business their way. If that means they turn away customers, it's their problem.
    Same as above.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Actually I think native Americans also had slaves.
    I know. They were called "women".

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He is from Vermont according to himself.


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-se...post1057742701
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057547631



    I find it funny when northern hillbillies call out southern rednecks.
    Well there's no chance that a cop in Vermont would ever kill a black person since they don't even pass through there.

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Does not really make your comment any less stupid.
    You can't argue the facts, so you call it stupid, when you yourself said that the black community needs to correct it's problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Not really. You have proved beyond all reasonable doubts you have no clue.
    Yes really, different messenger, same message, and you're still the clueless one.

    You've done nothing but make excuses for the black communities inability to assimilate into society.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Truth hurts.
    And you're feeling the pain.

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    Ahhh yes, the dramatic "eye roll". Again, you can't argue the facts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is true. Affirmative action in the workplace and school needs to go now.
    Affirmative action is reverse discrimination, it had no place to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It helped back in the day. Now it is just a tear in the racial divide and supports reverse discrimination as far as I am concerned.
    Priceless. You support discrimination when it's against the other guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I would have no problem with company's hiring as they see fit.
    Yet you cry about it here:

    I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job.

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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    You can't argue the facts, so you call it stupid, when you yourself said that the black community needs to correct it's problems.
    Huge difference between correcting a problem and assimilating. You give no facts to argue.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Yes really, different messenger, same message, and you're still the clueless one.

    You've done nothing but make excuses for the black communities inability to assimilate into society.
    Again you have shown you have no idea and not a clue.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    And you're feeling the pain.
    The pain of your ignorance? Yes I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Ahhh yes, the dramatic "eye roll". Again, you can't argue the facts.
    If you actually gave facts you could of had some kind of point.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Affirmative action is reverse discrimination, it had no place to begin with.
    CNN.com - How affirmative action helped George W. - Jan. 20, 2003
    Affirmative Action: Who Benefits?

    The second article goes on to say it is still needed....

    "A series of laboratory studies have shown that almost all people have trouble detecting a pattern of discrimination unless they are faced with a flagrant example or have access to aggregated data documenting discrimination (Clayton and Crosby, 1992). This inability to make accurate judgments about discrimination from isolated incidents or comparisons is just as true for fair-minded and intelligent people as it is for others. Aggregated data are needed, therefore, if decision makers are to avoid or correct imbalances before they become flagrant. As shown in the table opposite, affirmative action is the only policy that requires an organization to collect and scrutinize aggregated data.


    Data indicate that the biases against minorities and women that humans show in laboratory settings are reflected in real-world practices. According to the March 1995 report of the Federal Glass Ceiling Commission, for example, a large proportion of minorities and women are locked into low-wage, low-prestige, and dead-end jobs. Additional data suggest that these two groups have been disproportionately affected by current trends in workforce downsizing; many service-oriented industries, for example, disproportionately employ women and minorities and are likely to continue downsizing through the year 2002. It is likely that the minorities and women who work in these industries will be hardest hit (Murrell and Jones, 1995).
    "

    Wrong again.

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Priceless. You support discrimination when it's against the other guy.
    I said...

    "It helped back in the day. Now it is just a tear in the racial divide and supports reverse discrimination as far as I am concerned." - Blackdog

    Now please explane how my comment translates into...

    "You support discrimination when it's against the other guy. - GottaHurt

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Yet you cry about it here:

    I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057990211
    So using it as an example of the discrimination that still happens today is crying about it?

    So I suppose when Jewish people tell about the bad things that happened during the Holocaust, they are also crying about it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Black man's killing by police shakes La. town

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Huge difference between correcting a problem and assimilating. You give no facts to argue.
    They're one and the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Again you have shown you have no idea and not a clue.
    Again, you can't argue the point, so you try to deflect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The pain of your ignorance? Yes I am.
    Same as above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    If you actually gave facts you could of had some kind of point.
    I did give the facts. The fact that slavery does not start at the shores of America. You need to address where and how slavery began to understand it's impact in America.

    Again, you don't want to argue this point, because it destroys your feeble attempt at debate here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    CNN.com - How affirmative action helped George W. - Jan. 20, 2003
    Affirmative Action: Who Benefits?

    The second article goes on to say it is still needed....

    "A series of laboratory studies have shown that almost all people have trouble detecting a pattern of discrimination unless they are faced with a flagrant example or have access to aggregated data documenting discrimination (Clayton and Crosby, 1992). This inability to make accurate judgments about discrimination from isolated incidents or comparisons is just as true for fair-minded and intelligent people as it is for others. Aggregated data are needed, therefore, if decision makers are to avoid or correct imbalances before they become flagrant. As shown in the table opposite, affirmative action is the only policy that requires an organization to collect and scrutinize aggregated data.


    Data indicate that the biases against minorities and women that humans show in laboratory settings are reflected in real-world practices. According to the March 1995 report of the Federal Glass Ceiling Commission, for example, a large proportion of minorities and women are locked into low-wage, low-prestige, and dead-end jobs. Additional data suggest that these two groups have been disproportionately affected by current trends in workforce downsizing; many service-oriented industries, for example, disproportionately employ women and minorities and are likely to continue downsizing through the year 2002. It is likely that the minorities and women who work in these industries will be hardest hit (Murrell and Jones, 1995).
    "

    Wrong again.

    I said...

    "It helped back in the day. Now it is just a tear in the racial divide and supports reverse discrimination as far as I am concerned." - Blackdog

    Now please explane how my comment translates into...

    "You support discrimination when it's against the other guy. - GottaHurt
    The first 5 words below, sum up your articles:

    A series of laboratory studies

    We don't live in a laboratory.

    You said:

    It helped back in the day
    No, it discriminated. So it didn't help, it only redirected the discrimination.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So using it as an example of the discrimination that still happens today is crying about it?
    You said you have no problem with it here:

    I would have no problem with company's hiring as they see fit.
    Then you cry about it here:

    I have been greeted at job interviews with a comment like " hmmm you did not sound black over the phone." Needless to say I did not get the job.
    If you have no problem with it, then there's no need to bring it up.

    Your incessant crying over it is duly noted though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So I suppose when Jewish people tell about the bad things that happened during the Holocaust, they are also crying about it?
    You're confused. This thread isn't about the Jews or the holocaust.

    Please feel free to start a thread on the subject.
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