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    US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    One standoff with pirates has already been resolved. The French killed them and rescued 4 hostages, although a fifth one died. In the other standoff, US naval ships have surrounded the pirates who are holding the commander of the Maersk Alabama.

    Interesting development. We like to call the French cheese eating surrender monkeys, but the French took no prisoners today. They kicked ass. I think we had better be doing the same, or there will be plenty of American surrender jokes in France. I don't know about you, but I would like to continue the time-honored tradition of making fun of the French, and do not want the tables turned. LOL.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    One standoff with pirates has already been resolved. The French killed them and rescued 4 hostages, although a fifth one died. In the other standoff, US naval ships have surrounded the pirates who are holding the commander of the Maersk Alabama.

    Interesting development. We like to call the French cheese eating surrender monkeys, but the French took no prisoners today. They kicked ass. I think we had better be doing the same, or there will be plenty of American surrender jokes in France. I don't know about you, but I would like to continue the time-honored tradition of making fun of the French, and do not want the tables turned. LOL.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    with regards to France, even a broken clock is right 2x/day.
    but seriously, good for them. Obama should have led the way, but as long as he follows the example, i will be pleased

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    with regards to France, even a broken clock is right 2x/day.
    but seriously, good for them. Obama should have led the way, but as long as he follows the example, i will be pleased
    Your president will have very little say or influence on events. Its down to the commanders on the ground.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Your president will have very little say or influence on events.
    That shouldn't be difficult as he's had little to say at all.

    Good for the French! Thank you!
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    One standoff with pirates has already been resolved. The French killed them and rescued 4 hostages, although a fifth one died. In the other standoff, US naval ships have surrounded the pirates who are holding the commander of the Maersk Alabama.

    Interesting development. We like to call the French cheese eating surrender monkeys, but the French took no prisoners today. They kicked ass. I think we had better be doing the same, or there will be plenty of American surrender jokes in France. I don't know about you, but I would like to continue the time-honored tradition of making fun of the French, and do not want the tables turned. LOL.

    Article is here.
    As long as the pirates are holding an American captain hostage, it would be moronic to try to "kick ass."
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Your president will have very little say or influence on events. Its down to the commanders on the ground.

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    while i agree that Obama will not be faxing the commanders his plan for the rescue, in detail
    this is the first time his admin is facing this situation. he could decide to change the "we do not negotiate" principal that we live by, and that most certainly will affect how the commander 'on the ground' acts

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    while i agree that Obama will not be faxing the commanders his plan for the rescue, in detail
    this is the first time his admin is facing this situation. he could decide to change the "we do not negotiate" principal that we live by, and that most certainly will affect how the commander 'on the ground' acts
    Really? Since when do we live by that principle? We aren't talking about al-Qaeda here, we're talking about common criminals. The fact that they're on the high seas instead of on American soil should make little difference in American policy. The fact that the FBI has hostage negotiators obviously indicates that we DO negotiate under certain circumstances.

    What exactly do you want the US military to do? Open fire on the pirate ship and kill everyone on board, including the hostage?
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    As long as the pirates are holding an American captain hostage, it would be moronic to try to "kick ass."
    Why?

    Go in, kick ass. That's what needs doing. We shouldn't play their game. We should simply start teaching terrorists, and now "pirates" that the price they pay is death, pure and simple.

    Too bad if some of the hostages get harmed before the criminals learn the lesson properly, but in the long run it'll improve the situation enormously.

    Grow some balls, people.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why?

    Go in, kick ass. That's what needs doing. We shouldn't play their game. We should simply start teaching terrorists, and now "pirates" that the price they pay is death, pure and simple.
    Just because they have brown skin and are Muslims doesn't mean they're terrorists. These people are common criminals who want money, not some grand politically-oriented concession from the US government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar
    Too bad if some of the hostages get harmed before the criminals learn the lesson properly, but in the long run it'll improve the situation enormously.

    Grow some balls, people.
    If you're interested in deterrence, there are better ways to deter pirates than killing a little boat of pirates (and the hostage). A permanent US Navy presence patrolling the coasts of Somalia would be much more effective. That wouldn't preclude negotiations in future hostage situations involving common criminals, similar to what we do in hostage situations on American soil. You can always arrest or kill them (or not, depending on the situation) once the hostages are freed.
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