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US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

In some cases, they are carrying highly explosive or flammable cargo (like oil)...it wouldn't be good to have gunfire around that. But in the cases where they aren't, I think a lot of the ships do carry weapons.
i am sorry but i know you are not ignorant of the sonic weapons designed for a variety of reasons including boat defense
it is harmless but effective in deterrence
 
Isn't the more pressing problem - Is it legal for any army to enter the territorial waters of another without prior permission from the governing body of a country? [Somalia has a recognised President remember]

Those pirates are terrorists who work for a profit.

Quit defending them.
 
Does the Somali government have any real control outside of Mogadishu? Somalia's situation today is not that unlike China's in the late 1910s and early 1920s. Warlords in control of the country and a "recognized" government in control of little more than the capital.

The ironic thing is that they did have a stronger gov't but it was toppled by foreign back Ethopian troops sending the country back into near total chaos froma at least a slightly better position.
 
Oh come on don't be absurd. That guy who robs your house is a "terrorist" with a crow-bar, is he?:roll:

Cool.. that means Bush and Cheney are terrorists as they worked for profit too.. and the wall street bankers, the loan officers, random politician who accepted a meal from anyone.. basicly anyone... good to know! ;)
 
In other words, you're more interested in killing the pirates than in actually rescuing the hostage. :roll:



And what about the 99.9% of the pirates who don't frequent that particular part of the coast and/or don't see the bodies before the locals remove them? :roll:



Oh yes, those poor poor pirates. :roll:
 
Life is a little bit more complicated then a ****ty 1990s movie.

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Rescued merchant ship captain grateful to US Navy


"I'm just the byline. The heroes are the Navy, the Seals and those that have brought me home," the shipping captain told his boss, Maersk Line Limited President and CEO John Reinhart, who relayed the phone message to reporters hours after Phillips was liberated Sunday from his captors' clutches aboard a lifeboat.


So now do you want to reconsider your post? :lol:
 
Rescued merchant ship captain grateful to US Navy

"I'm just the byline. The heroes are the Navy, the Seals and those that have brought me home," the shipping captain told his boss, Maersk Line Limited President and CEO John Reinhart, who relayed the phone message to reporters hours after Phillips was liberated Sunday from his captors' clutches aboard a lifeboat.

So now do you want to reconsider your post? :lol:

We need to adopt the same pirate control methods England used in the 17th century.

Catch the pirates ... AND HANG THEM FROM A YARD ARM.

Leave them roasting in the sun as a warning to other ****bag pirates.

Let it be known that the penalty for piracy is DEATH.
 
One standoff with pirates has already been resolved. The French killed them and rescued 4 hostages, although a fifth one died. In the other standoff, US naval ships have surrounded the pirates who are holding the commander of the Maersk Alabama.

Interesting development. We like to call the French cheese eating surrender monkeys, but the French took no prisoners today. They kicked ass. I think we had better be doing the same, or there will be plenty of American surrender jokes in France. I don't know about you, but I would like to continue the time-honored tradition of making fun of the French, and do not want the tables turned. LOL. :mrgreen:

Article is here.

Seeing the OP, I thought it was an April Fool's joke.

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Seeing the OP, I thought it was an April Fool's joke.

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Barney Frank has submitted a bill to tax their ransom. :mrgreen:
 
Really? Since when do we live by that principle? We aren't talking about al-Qaeda here, we're talking about common criminals.

No we're talking about Al-Shabaab Al-Mujahideen an AQ affiliated organization which uses the hostage takings to fund their jihad.
 
Seriously French women? You've never been to France have you. French women are hot!

Like anywhere there's a mix, but far more EU women don't shave.
They do have talent in large quantities though.

One of the funniest scenes was at a public lake and a tall, decent looking girl with a sporty, pretty ripped build had a white bikini on... but the failure to shave had it look like Mickey Mouse was trapped in her bottoms... only his big ears sticking out.

Still makes me howl.

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Life is a little bit more complicated then a ****ty 1990s movie.

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You would be the one to bring Hollywood into this. It's very liberal.
 
Because the government is barely in control of the capital city, let alone the country side. Last I heard the government had just arrived back to the country after years of exile and months on months (if not over a year) after the religious fanatics were kicked out of power by an Ethiopian invasion.

So the US/west is in a loose loose situation. Sure they can go in with full force, into a hostile area costing many many lives and maybe kill a few pirates, but it wont put them out of business. Only a brutal occupation can do that. What they in turn get are pissed off locals that will join forces with the "enemy of my enemy".. which is Al Q and the islamic extremists, and that is exactly what we dont want... rather have the pirates to be honest. Such action will also weaken the very very weak government in Somalia.. Now the government could ask for western assistance, but that would also weaken them considerably in the eyes of the very people that they want to trust them.. the Somalis, which in turn plays right into the hands of the religious extremists backed by Al Q.

Now the US/west can do what they are doing now, trying to fight off the pirates at sea, in international waters. However this plays bad to especially the gun hoarding shoot first ask questions never right wing of the right wing in many western countries. It also some what strengthens the pirates grip on the local population and in fact draws more and more into the pirate game, since it is profitable. It is also a propaganda coup to the pirates as we have seen, drawing more and more to the cause.

It is ironic that it was the islamic extremist AL Q backed government that kept the pirates down to a manageable size back in the day and since they are gone, the problem has exploded.

The US/west are damned if they do, damned if they dont.

And for the record.. Big Danish container ship is hard to "retake" from pirates, where as a small French yacht is a rather simple task, relatively speaking. The amount of space special forces have to cover to secure a ship of that size ... mind boggling. And there is plenty of places on a container ship where the pirates can set up kill zones and traps and in the end any time wasted means a bullet closer to a hostage head.

And it is not the first time the French have hit back at pirates in this way and they have zero tolerance plus the legal means.. as they are one of the nations that have universal jurisdiction on things like war crimes, crimes against humanity and high seas piracy.

I hope the French catch those pirates and hang them from a yard arm.

Let their stinking corpses act as a lesson to other Somali ****bag pirate scum who might consider attacking a ship.

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