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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Isn't the more pressing problem - Is it legal for any army to enter the territorial waters of another without prior permission from the governing body of a country? [Somalia has a recognised President remember]
    Territorial waters only extend out 12 miles. These hijackings (and it isn't only the French and Americans that are being hijacked - ships from Yemen, Italy, and Taiwan have been hijacked in the past week alone) are generally happening much further out.

    The Taiwanese fishing boat that has been in the news here was near the Seychelles when it was taken.
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Somali Government is on a bridge of weakness.
    It's position is very delicate. If i was the President, i would not sacrifice my life just to make it look like we are doing something
    Does the Somali government have any real control outside of Mogadishu? Somalia's situation today is not that unlike China's in the late 1910s and early 1920s. Warlords in control of the country and a "recognized" government in control of little more than the capital.
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    I like to make fun of the French as much as anyone, but the truth is they really do have some extremely badass commandos. It's probably the result of all those young men growing up over there hearing how much we make fun of them and getting mad.
    The French GIGN have always been bad to the bone. They are good at what they do and they did a good job today.

    I think an allied Naval force on patrol along the horn of Africa. We can use this force to deter piracy.

    SEALS/GIGN/SAS members can be assigned to apprehend or kill pirates in that area.

    Eventually, enough of them will be caught or killed and this fact will make pirates think twice about bording ships in that part of the world.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Why aren't the merchant ships arming themselves?

    The pirates can't do much shooting once they are too close. Once they are along side, they don't dare fire the RPG's, and the only direction they can fire an AK47 is straight up. A few shotgun slugs thru their boat hull will give them something else to think about... like a sinking boat..
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Why aren't the merchant ships arming themselves?

    The pirates can't do much shooting once they are too close. Once they are along side, they don't dare fire the RPG's, and the only direction they can fire an AK47 is straight up. A few shotgun slugs thru their boat hull will give them something else to think about... like a sinking boat..
    In some cases, they are carrying highly explosive or flammable cargo (like oil)...it wouldn't be good to have gunfire around that. But in the cases where they aren't, I think a lot of the ships do carry weapons.
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In some cases, they are carrying highly explosive or flammable cargo (like oil)...it wouldn't be good to have gunfire around that. But in the cases where they aren't, I think a lot of the ships do carry weapons.
    i am sorry but i know you are not ignorant of the sonic weapons designed for a variety of reasons including boat defense
    it is harmless but effective in deterrence

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Isn't the more pressing problem - Is it legal for any army to enter the territorial waters of another without prior permission from the governing body of a country? [Somalia has a recognised President remember]
    Those pirates are terrorists who work for a profit.

    Quit defending them.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Does the Somali government have any real control outside of Mogadishu? Somalia's situation today is not that unlike China's in the late 1910s and early 1920s. Warlords in control of the country and a "recognized" government in control of little more than the capital.
    The ironic thing is that they did have a stronger gov't but it was toppled by foreign back Ethopian troops sending the country back into near total chaos froma at least a slightly better position.
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Those pirates are terrorists who work for a profit.

    Quit defending them.
    Oh come on don't be absurd. That guy who robs your house is a "terrorist" with a crow-bar, is he?
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Oh come on don't be absurd. That guy who robs your house is a "terrorist" with a crow-bar, is he?
    Cool.. that means Bush and Cheney are terrorists as they worked for profit too.. and the wall street bankers, the loan officers, random politician who accepted a meal from anyone.. basicly anyone... good to know!
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