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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In other words, you're more interested in killing the pirates than in actually rescuing the hostage.
    Actually, I'm more interested in making sure no future hostages get taken. Your way is to save one life today by sacrificing ten lives tomorrow--that's not math I find particularly appealing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And what about the 99.9% of the pirates who don't frequent that particular part of the coast and/or don't see the bodies before the locals remove them?
    Well, I'm sure in that case the pirates will happily offer up more of themselves for crucifixion....in time word will get around. If you like we can have a camera crew photograph the crucifixions and drop leaflets with the picture and the same "thou shalt not steal" message.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Actually, I'm more interested in making sure no future hostages get taken. Your way is to save one life today by sacrificing ten lives tomorrow--that's not math I find particularly appealing.
    This presumes that blowing up this little lifeboat will have the slightest deterrent effect on other pirates.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord
    Well, I'm sure in that case the pirates will happily offer up more of themselves for crucifixion....in time word will get around. If you like we can have a camera crew photograph the crucifixions and drop leaflets with the picture and the same "thou shalt not steal" message.
    So just to clarify, do you propose blowing up any and all ships/crews that are taken by pirates? Or just Americans?
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    You Americans and your stereotypes lol. I suppose everyone in Britain have bad teeth as well?
    That's like saying 1 in 3 Americans are obese....o **** that's true

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, the idea would be to stop the pirates BEFORE they take someone hostage. Stopping and arresting/killing pirates will eliminate pirates from the sea.
    Sounds rather like the Bush Doctrine of preemptive warfare. I like that!


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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    This presumes that blowing up this little lifeboat will have the slightest deterrent effect on other pirates.
    No, it presumes that pirate corpses prominently displayed on the Somali coast will have a deterrent, or that pirates being fed to sharks will have a deterrent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So just to clarify, do you propose blowing up any and all ships/crews that are taken by pirates? Or just Americans?
    I propose having SEAL Team 6, British SAS, a few companies of US and British Royal Marines, plus any other elite military units one can add to the list, develop and train in melee tactics to retake ships, with the understanding taking pirates prisoner is not part of the mission parameters, and then, when ships are taken, have them retaken swiftly, with any pirates who surrender taken ashore and promptly nailed to a cross and left to die.

    I'm sure shipping companies would happily help defray the cost of such an effort.

    Alternatively, some entrepreneurial types could take some old rustbucket cargo ships and start hosting pirate hunting cruises for big game hunters bored with shooting at lions, tigers, and bears (oh my!).

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Well, by that logic, why isn't Somalia's "government" stopping the pirates? Their failure to act is forcing other nations to act instead.

    In legalese, the term would likely be something similar to "exigent circumstance"--somebody has to do something. If the Somalis get offended by it....too damn bad.

    The Somali Government is on a bridge of weakness.
    It's position is very delicate. If i was the President, i would not sacrifice my life just to make it look like we are doing something


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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Somali Government is on a bridge of weakness.
    It's position is very delicate. If i was the President, i would not sacrifice my life just to make it look like we are doing something
    No offense, but if you were not willing to sacrifice your life fighting against those who wish to harm others.. then I'd rather you not be President.
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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Somali Government is on a bridge of weakness.
    It's position is very delicate. If i was the President, i would not sacrifice my life just to make it look like we are doing something
    If I was President, I would not sacrifice my life either.

    I would, however, most happily sacrifice the lives of more than a few Somali pirates/terrorists/extremists/scum.

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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    No offense, but if you were not willing to sacrifice your life fighting against those who wish to harm others.. then I'd rather you not be President.
    I want to be President of Somalia/Somaliland.
    I reckon i'd be brilliant one.


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    Re: US Navy surrounds pirates as French commandos storm in

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    If I was President, I would not sacrifice my life either.

    I would, however, most happily sacrifice the lives of more than a few Somali pirates/terrorists/extremists/scum.
    True.
    I'd be up for that


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