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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Think Progress Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for Americans to deal with.’



    What an idiot!!

    I love it that the Chinese-American she was talking to was named 'Ko'. Because that name is so damn difficult to pronounce.
    But for real, if we want to start talking about difficult last names, start with the Polish or Indian ones. I talked to an Indian lady last week who had about 15 letters in her last name.
    Actually, the name "Ko" is commonly mis-pronounced.

    My last name is French. Very few Americans can pronounce it. Perhaps I should change my name to make this little racist a little happier?
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    My great grandfather changed our surname when he immigrated here, he shortened it. There's many stories as to why, but I'm thankful that I've got the condensed version.
    And I am glad my great grandparents DID NOT modify their French last name when they immigrated to New Hampshire from Quebec. I don't care that others can't pronounce it very well. My students have always simply referred to me as Mr. L. I have no problem with that. My surname is a link with a great heritage I am proud to have while being proud to be American at the same time.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And I am glad my great grandparents DID NOT modify their French last name when they immigrated to New Hampshire from Quebec. I don't care that others can't pronounce it very well. My students have always simply referred to me as Mr. L. I have no problem with that. My surname is a link with a great heritage I am proud to have while being proud to be American at the same time.
    Outstanding. You should be proud of your heritage, we all should. The issue is being able to have this type of dialogue without it being labled as racist or dismissed simply because some people find it not to be politically correct.

    As I've pointed out several times in this thread, people change their names for various reasons, and bringing up that point through suggestion, doesn't make one a racist, a moron, or an idiot.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Really? That's an interesting theory you have whipped up there.

    I'm sure Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford, Gary Hart, Ulysses Grant and Caryn Johnson
    (Whoopi Goldberg) would love to hear more about your theory.

    Famous Name Changes - Politicians

    It's not about catering to anyone's whims based on racist attitudes. It's about assimilating into a new country and simplifying the language/spelling barriers associated with translations. That's not to say that some folks haven't changed their names based on a stigma that might or might not be attatched to it..

    Please feel free to peruse through the above linked site and see how many folks from all races have changed their names, for the various reasons I previously listed.
    I imagined some of those people changed their names because they disliked or are embarrassed by their name they were given when they were born, they did it because they felt it might help them achieve some fame or goal(Malcom X does sound better than Malcolm little) and some changed their last name as a gesture to their step father. However the people you listed are not immigrants.



    I'm not talking about pronunciation. The object of the name change is to simplify the spelling, thus creating less chance of error when filling out/copying/reading documents.
    If someone messes up the spelling then that is on the individual who misspelled the name not the person whose last name was misspelled.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Outstanding. You should be proud of your heritage, we all should. The issue is being able to have this type of dialogue without it being labled as racist or dismissed simply because some people find it not to be politically correct.

    As I've pointed out several times in this thread, people change their names for various reasons, and bringing up that point through suggestion, doesn't make one a racist, a moron, or an idiot.
    Problem with me is she called out Chinese-Americans. It should be none of the Fed's business what people's last names are.

    I find many Euro-Centric last names hard to pronounce. The problem is not with the last name it's with the speaker's ignorance of how to.

    For the past 4 collegiate basketball seasons I witnessed commentator after commentator butcher Tyler Hansbroughs' last name. (It's not Hans borough, it's Hans brough).

    Should we suggest that he changes his last name?


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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Hihih.. Ko means cow in Danish...

    But on a serious side, what a moron. The hardest names to pronounce for "westerners" are actually Eastern European names.... like Bligovaic..or whatever that guys name is.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    My spouse has been to graduate school and worked with too many Asians to count and many of them adopt "American" (or at least Western) names voluntarily because it's just easier. I guess they're racists, too.

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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I imagined some of those people changed their names because they disliked or are embarrassed by their name they were given when they were born, they did it because they felt it might help them achieve some fame or goal(Malcom X does sound better than Malcolm little) and some changed their last name as a gesture to their step father. However the people you listed are not immigrants.


    If someone messes up the spelling then that is on the individual who misspelled the name not the person whose last name was misspelled.
    Actually, we're all immigrants, even the "native americans" migrated here.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by don'ttreadonme View Post
    My spouse has been to graduate school and worked with too many Asians to count and many of them adopt "American" (or at least Western) names voluntarily because it's just easier. I guess they're racists, too.
    No. They are practical people who see that having an easier name to spell and pronounce can help them in a new country. People shorten their names or change their names all the time or allow people to pronounce the name wrong out of practical reasons and have done so for hundreds of years. Now this practical reason can have sinister aspects, such as hiding from the law, or even worse.. hiding because of religious or ethnic persecution. Many Jews in the US and Europe changed their names to more "Christian" sounding names so to blend in better and not stick out like a sore thumb. This goes for eastern Europeans, Spanish, Italians and so on.. you do know that Jay Leno is not his real last name right.. that his family changed it long ago to blend in better in the US?

    I will give you a real life example.. my self. My first name Peder, an old Danish name in part coming from Poland, Baltic states area I believe... Now for a dane it is pretty easy to pronounce correctly, but for an anglo-saxon person it is damn hard if not impossible. Hence I have accepted long ago that people call me Peter and even in Spain I accept people call me Pedro as it makes my life easier.. but my name is still Peder and that is what it states on my birth certificate and passport. Now if a politician had come up to me and said.. why dont you change your name officaly to Peter, then I would have been insulted big time regardless of political colour of the person and told him to mind his own business.

    Now what this politician did was very wrong, and frankly a bit (that is saying it mildly) racist. And since the politician is suppose to come from the political party that according to it self sees everyone as equal regardless of colour, religion or sex and the protector of personal freedoms and defender of liberty, then I also find it extremely hypocritical that this politician is telling others what to do about their names..... what is next... telling lefties that it is the devils work and they should be forced to use their right hands?
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Outstanding. You should be proud of your heritage, we all should. The issue is being able to have this type of dialogue without it being labled as racist or dismissed simply because some people find it not to be politically correct.

    As I've pointed out several times in this thread, people change their names for various reasons, and bringing up that point through suggestion, doesn't make one a racist, a moron, or an idiot.
    The way this was presented is racist. There is no reason at all for people to change their surnames because some culturally illiterate WASP can't pronounce it.
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