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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Besides the apparent trolling, I have no idea where you stand on this issue.
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    Until then I will just consider your attack on Dan and the OP as a defense of this Representative.
    I made no attack, I merely pointed out the irony in several ill thought out posts.

    There's no need to defend State Rep. Betty Brown (R), she was spot on in her suggestion. The language barrier is one of the most difficult barriers to overcome when assimilating immigrants into any country.

    To have open dialogue like this is very saavy and should be encouraged, as opposed to being chastised by the politically correct douchebags who somehow think this is an insult.

    Look throughout the history of our country, and you'll see a plethora of immigrants who changed their names whether out of convenience, to escape a stigma attatched to their ethnic group at a particular point in time, to propel their careers, or any number of other reasons.

    The documentation process is well known for immgrants assimilating into our country, to help simplify the process and overcome the language barrier by suggesting to alter ones name is a common sense and cost effective approach.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    I made no attack, I merely pointed out the irony in several ill thought out posts.

    There's no need to defend State Rep. Betty Brown (R), she was spot on in her suggestion. The language barrier is one of the most difficult barriers to overcome when assimilating immigrants into any country.

    To have open dialogue like this is very saavy and should be encouraged, as opposed to being chastised by the politically correct douchebags who somehow think this is an insult.

    Look throughout the history of our country, and you'll see a plethora of immigrants who changed their names whether out of convenience, to escape a stigma attatched to their ethnic group at a particular point in time, to propel their careers, or any number of other reasons. A culture that values being uneducated and sheltered over for once in their insignificant lives being educated. It's funny how Republicans love to say that Democrats are supportive of poverty and people who don't want to better themselves and then with the same face adopt the same stance only instead of doing it for inner city minorities they do it with backwood rednecks.

    The documentation process is well known for immgrants assimilating into our country, to help simplify the process and overcome the language barrier by suggesting to alter ones name is a common sense and cost effective approach.
    Do you think that learning somebody's name is the same as having them learn a language? Seriously....? I mean...it's a name....you're not being forced to learn Tamil or Chinese. Seriously. This old lady is representative of backwoods stupidity that is so prevalent in America. Happy with simpleton interpretations of a 21st century world. It's funny how Republicans love to attack Democrats for their support of innercity poverty programs and call it support for people who don't want to better themselves and then with the same face support the very same thing only for backwood rednecks. No no! Learning a person's name is like learning their language! We can't have that! It's funny how Republicans & Conservatives support a culture of stupidity and people who don't want to educated themselves and then attack Democrats for doing the same thing only with people in the cities.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What group of people did I decide to tarnish?
    Then what were you trying to imply with your statement?

    Are you insinuating that the rabidly anti-illegal immigration also tend to be associated with those who have ridiculously simpleton ideas about language?I asked a simple question
    It looked my like you were trying to use guilt by association to slander a whole group. "Looky here, she cain't pronounces one thems thar chYneese names, I bet shes one of thems anti-illegal immigration people."
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    Look throughout the history of our country, and you'll see a plethora of immigrants who changed their names whether out of convenience, to escape a stigma attatched to their ethnic group at a particular point in time, to propel their careers, or any number of other reasons.
    They did that **** to cater to racist and people who didn't trust foreigners. Catering to racist by changing your name so they'll accept you is just as bad as changing the words you use to cater to the pc retards so they'll accept you.

    The documentation process is well known for immgrants assimilating into our country, to help simplify the process and overcome the language barrier by suggesting to alter ones name is a common sense and cost effective approach.
    This isn't the 1950s and before. You can't get fired or turned down for a job because your name sounds foreign. This is not a language issue because as far as I know these people write their names out with the english alphabet when submitting a job application form,when applying for a diver's license.Who cares if someone can't pronounce someone's name correctly,if they feel that bad about not being able to correctly pronounce someone's name correctly then ask the person who to correctly pronounce their name.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    I think people should worry more about making Americans of Hispanic descent learn English than Asian's names.

    Why should I have to read Spanish only signs in America. (Down in SoCal)
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Another nail in your conservative coffin. Did you pick on a liberal, no. Did you pick on a moderate, no. There is a pattern here whether you like it or not, Bush will be next no doubt.

    Palin has nothing to do with this btw.
    I adore Sarah Palin, and I think kids should be off limits. However, that was a pretty funny line by Danarhea considering her kids' names are a bit wacky.

    I don't think people need to change their names to suit Americans. I learned on my grandfather's death bed that his name really wasn't John. He had Americanized his Italian name at Ellis Island many years ago. He had such a beautiful name, too.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They did that **** to cater to racist and people who didn't trust foreigners. Catering to racist by changing your name so they'll accept you is just as bad as changing the words you use to cater to the pc retards so they'll accept you.
    Really? That's an interesting theory you have whipped up there.

    I'm sure Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford, Gary Hart, Ulysses Grant and Caryn Johnson
    (Whoopi Goldberg) would love to hear more about your theory.

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    It's not about catering to anyone's whims based on racist attitudes. It's about assimilating into a new country and simplifying the language/spelling barriers associated with translations. That's not to say that some folks haven't changed their names based on a stigma that might or might not be attatched to it..

    Please feel free to peruse through the above linked site and see how many folks from all races have changed their names, for the various reasons I previously listed.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This isn't the 1950s and before. You can't get fired or turned down for a job because your name sounds foreign. This is not a language issue because as far as I know these people write their names out with the english alphabet when submitting a job application form,when applying for a diver's license.Who cares if someone can't pronounce someone's name correctly,if they feel that bad about not being able to correctly pronounce someone's name correctly then ask the person who to correctly pronounce their name.
    I'm not talking about pronunciation. The object of the name change is to simplify the spelling, thus creating less chance of error when filling out/copying/reading documents.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    I adore Sarah Palin, and I think kids should be off limits. However, that was a pretty funny line by Danarhea considering her kids' names are a bit wacky.

    I don't think people need to change their names to suit Americans. I learned on my grandfather's death bed that his name really wasn't John. He had Americanized his Italian name at Ellis Island many years ago. He had such a beautiful name, too.
    My great grandfather changed our surname when he immigrated here, he shortened it. There's many stories as to why, but I'm thankful that I've got the condensed version.
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
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    Re: Texas lawmaker: Asians should change their names to make them ‘easier for America

    Despite the bigoted stance of the Texas law maker, his request is already happening. Most Chinese who immigrate outside of China end up changing their names to conform with local language. Even here in China, all Chinese people I've met who have studied English have an English name as well as a Chinese one. They introduce themselves with the English name to English speakers, and the Chinese name to those who can understand.

    As for their last name... it's their ancestry and they will never change it no matter what, except in marriage of course.

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