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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    I think Obama's refusal to comment is not a sign that he is oblivious to the situation. Quite the contrary, I think it has to do with the religion of the pirates. If the Muslim world can elicit a direct response from the POTUS with something as simple as attacking a dingy at sea, then it will encourage more sea-borne terrorism.

    Basically... he won't address the pirates because they are too lowly to be given word from such high office. In addition, piracy at sea is not new. It has been an ongoing problem during all of the modern Presidential administrations. The media is just giving it more hype now, which is why more people are expecting a comment from the POTUS.

    These situations happen more often than we knew until now, and the navy has always moved in to address the problem.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I think Obama's refusal to comment is not a sign that he is oblivious to the situation. Quite the contrary, I think it has to do with the religion of the pirates. If the Muslim world can elicit a direct response from the POTUS with something as simple as attacking a dingy at sea, then it will encourage more sea-borne terrorism.
    I won't disagree with the premise, but disagree it is religious based.
    I think it's a decent guess at what he's being told to do.

    Basically... he won't address the pirates because they are too lowly to be given word from such high office. In addition, piracy at sea is not new. It has been an ongoing problem during all of the modern Presidential administrations. The media is just giving it more hype now, which is why more people are expecting a comment from the POTUS.
    It has been going on for quite some time. Surprisingly little has been said about it until now. It is similar to the illegal oil running during the clamp down on Saddam; which was known all the way to the WH, but wasn't reported by the AMMP; probably so the then occupant in the WH woudn't have to make any unsavory decisions.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Jesus, the "unamerican" bs was annoying when liberals were doing it to conservatives for years. Now you're going to start chucking it back the other side? Why?
    That's because there are really 2 Americas right now. There is the rational, sane America that understands that dissent is logical, rational, and well placed over ACTUAL ISSUES and then there is the "ZOMG WTF Think of the CHILDREN You're an Uber Terrorist Yay flag WOOT" teamed up with the "ZOMG WTF Think of the CHILDREN You're an Uber NEONAZICON Yay Obama WOOT" America.

    I think it's a sad fact that there are two extremes pulling in the wrong directions in America. Hopefully a rational middle can turn out at elections and put an end to the nonsense.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    That he doesn't allow force to be used in this situation... the pirates will get away and the Capt. will be released after being paid.

    AND THAT is what I see happening.

    I guess youíre relieved that you didnít take me up on the bet eh?
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I guess youíre relieved that you didnít take me up on the bet eh?
    Actually Donc, Mr Vicchio already stated in the other thread that he was wrong. It takes a big man to admit when one is wrong. A lesser man rubs his nose in it.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I guess youíre relieved that you didnít take me up on the bet eh?
    I'm glad that Mr. V's powers of foresight blow... but hey what else is new.

    That's a good thing to be wrong about Mr. V!
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Actually Donc, Mr Vicchio already stated in the other thread that he was wrong. It takes a big man to admit when one is wrong. A lesser man rubs his nose in it.

    Yes, it was nice of him to admit he was wrong but when he ragged on for seven post that the President didnít have the balls to do anything about it, that in my opinion deserved a heaping helping salt rubbed in his a**.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    I'm quite HAPPY to be wrong that Obama would not have allowed the military to use force to end this and free the Captain. I'm thankful to the Good Lord that it went down in a way that was bad for the pirates and good for us.

    Push came to shove, and Obama did the right thing. Good on for him.

    If you guys need to "rub my nose in it" to make yourselves feel big, by all means go right ahead. After all, emotions guide you, so it's only natural you are unable to contain such feelings. Let it out.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    I don't think they should rub your nose too hard, quit frankly I think Obama was literally out voted on this one and had no choice despite the fact he involved the FBI and tried to make it a world justice matter. Our Navy SEALS rock!!!

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by lolly89123 View Post
    I don't think they should rub your nose too hard, quit frankly I think Obama was literally out voted on this one and had no choice despite the fact he involved the FBI and tried to make it a world justice matter. Our Navy SEALS rock!!!
    And your evidence of this is where?
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