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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama would be committing a hate crime and have Jesse Jackson outside the WH demanding reparations for the families of the dead pirates.

    That's a good one.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Based on what?

    I'm basing my outlook on Obama's actions to this point, you are basing yours on faith.

    I just don't see Obama letting himself be cornered by a massacre (which is what it would be if the Navy used force to stop the pirates, they cannot withstand our military) and thus the bloodless way out is "negotiations".

    Nobody with any real legitimacy will call the Navy knocking 4 Pirates a "massacre". That is an absurd statement. Piracy is an international problem.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Nobody with any real legitimacy will call the Navy knocking 4 Pirates a "massacre". That is an absurd statement. Piracy is an international problem.
    True, it is an international problem. It took a crew of 20 unarmed Americans to turn the tables on the pirates. Its the way were raised. Unlike the wussified appeasers who coward and trembled in fear before the pirates in other hijackings.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Nobody with any real legitimacy will call the Navy knocking 4 Pirates a "massacre". That is an absurd statement. Piracy is an international problem.
    You should really keep up, the Pirates are sending ships in to "rescue" their friends and bring the Capt. to a safer location from which to negotiate.


    This leaves two options:

    Armed response (which would kill more then four people)

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    Let them go and negotiate later.

    I'm betting Obama takes the negotiation route.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Why are the mainstream media and the Community Organization of the United States calling these terrorists pirates?

    Do they launch the Skull and Crossbones flag before attacking civilian ships using the tools of terrorists? They are armed with AK-47s and RPGs, the same armaments of terrorists. They terrorize shipping and take civilians hostage just like terrorists.

    Lets face it folks, this is another Librul Community Organization of the United States attempt to avoid the REALITY which is that these Somali's are committing acts of terrorism and war which is ignored by the Somali Government and are indeed TERRORISTS from a rogue Somali regime; nothing more, and nothing less.

    I feel so much safer now that we are the Community Organization of the United States who is now more willing to listen, talk and avoid armed confrontation. I am sure now that we have become kinder and gentler and admitted our former arrogance and renounced our Christian heritage, the despots, dictators, tyrants and terrorists of the world will now stop the violence and despicable human rights record and lay down their arms.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You should really keep up, the Pirates are sending ships in to "rescue" their friends and bring the Capt. to a safer location from which to negotiate.


    This leaves two options:

    Armed response (which would kill more then four people)

    Or

    Let them go and negotiate later.

    I'm betting Obama takes the negotiation route.
    I agree, he dosn't have the balls that the 20 crew members of the Alabama had. He will negotiate and pay the ransom which will ensure continued hijacking of American ships.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Do you have a problem with this? There is a major international event unfolding and he remains silent? Personally, when every story and all the talk is about the pirates and the brave American captain who traded himself for the crew, one would think President Obama would at least address this international issue.
    Actually, no, I don't have a problem with it...that would imply that I was surprised by his indecisiveness.

    When the shooting between Russians and Georgians in South Ossetia broke out while Dear Leader was a candidate, he had nothing to say until he started feeling the heat from McCain's definitive response on the matter. Then he merely paraphrased McCain. (The foreign policy statement of Dear Leader: "yeah, what he said.")

    When Hurricane Ike knocked out nearly every power line in Harris County, Texas, he had nothing to say.

    Even his "monumental" speech on race, "a more perfect Union", is an extended exercise in content-free oration, and it came only after he was cornered on his refusal to reject and rebuke the racist Reverend Wright.

    When the AIG bonus embroglio erupted, all he could say was "I'm angry".

    When presented with alternatives and options to huge deficit spending, all he could say was "I won."

    I don't have a problem with this because I defy anyone to show where Dear Leader has ever had anything to say. When you screen out the platitudes and mellifluous cadences from his speaking, there's never anything left.

    I don't have a problem with this because Dear Leader has never had anything substantive to say about anything. Why would I expect him to have something to say now?

    (Obviously, I do have a problem with Dear Leader fouling up the Oval Office, but that is an error of democracy that will almost certainly be rectified come 2012, assuming he is not impeached before then)

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I agree, he dosn't have the balls that the 20 crew members of the Alabama had. He will negotiate and pay the ransom which will ensure continued hijacking of American ships.
    That's the only way out of this I see happening. Sad really, but what else can we expect?

    The Capt. tried to swim away, obviously the ship was close enough he thought he could pull it off, and the moment he hit the water there should have been bullets flying at that dingy. I'm betting they have "shoot back only" ROE in effect.

    If this man is taken to the mainland, the ONLY way to get him back sans boots on the ground will be $$ paid. And that's where this is headed.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Actually, no, I don't have a problem with it...that would imply that I was surprised by his indecisiveness.

    When the shooting between Russians and Georgians in South Ossetia broke out while Dear Leader was a candidate, he had nothing to say until he started feeling the heat from McCain's definitive response on the matter. Then he merely paraphrased McCain. (The foreign policy statement of Dear Leader: "yeah, what he said.")

    When Hurricane Ike knocked out nearly every power line in Harris County, Texas, he had nothing to say.

    Even his "monumental" speech on race, "a more perfect Union", is an extended exercise in content-free oration, and it came only after he was cornered on his refusal to reject and rebuke the racist Reverend Wright.

    When the AIG bonus embroglio erupted, all he could say was "I'm angry".

    When presented with alternatives and options to huge deficit spending, all he could say was "I won."

    I don't have a problem with this because I defy anyone to show where Dear Leader has ever had anything to say. When you screen out the platitudes and mellifluous cadences from his speaking, there's never anything left.

    I don't have a problem with this because Dear Leader has never had anything substantive to say about anything. Why would I expect him to have something to say now?

    (Obviously, I do have a problem with Dear Leader fouling up the Oval Office, but that is an error of democracy that will almost certainly be rectified come 2012, assuming he is not impeached before then)
    Bravo, this pretty much hits the nail on the head with the Community Organizer and his desire to turn us into the Community Organization of the United States.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I agree, he dosn't have the balls that the 20 crew members of the Alabama had. He will negotiate and pay the ransom which will ensure continued hijacking of American ships.
    By all means he should negotiate.

    The negotiation should be something like this:

    Option 1 - Don't release the hostage, in which case you'll be taken by force and hanged slowly.

    Option 2 - Release the hostage and surrender, in which case you'll be quickly and mercifully shot in the back of the head.

    Option 3 - Release the hostage and don't surrender, in which case you'll be shredded by the USS Bainbridge and her 5"/54 guns.

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