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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nah that was Carter' fault
    Carter failed in a hostage situation. I wonder if Obama has the stones to end this thing or will it drag on.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Carter failed in a hostage situation. I wonder if Obama has the stones to end this thing or will it drag on.
    Reagan traded arms for hostages should Obama do the same?

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Reagan traded arms for hostages should Obama do the same?

    No like I said, there are 4 pirates. Lets trade four bullets placed in the fourheads of the pirates for the hostage. Im sure we have four sharp shooters who could accomplish this with ease.

    Keep in mind the dingy is dead in the water in calm seas.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    No like I said, there are 4 pirates. Lets trade four bullets placed in the fourheads of the pirates for the hostage. Im sure we have four sharp shooters who could accomplish this with ease.
    Sounds good to me.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    No like I said, there are 4 pirates. Lets trade four bullets placed in the fourheads of the pirates for the hostage. Im sure we have four sharp shooters who could accomplish this with ease.

    Keep in mind the dingy is dead in the water in calm seas.
    Obama would have to authorize it, he hasn't and I'm betting will not allow the military to take the shot.

    Think of the race implications, a black man ordering black men killed to save a white man. Obama would be committing a hate crime and have Jesse Jackson outside the WH demanding reparations for the families of the dead pirates.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama would have to authorize it, he hasn't and I'm betting will not allow the military to take the shot.

    Think of the race implications, a black man ordering black men killed to save a white man. Obama would be committing a hate crime and have Jesse Jackson outside the WH demanding reparations for the families of the dead pirates.

    What do you want to bet?
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    What do you want to bet?
    That he doesn't allow force to be used in this situation... the pirates will get away and the Capt. will be released after being paid.

    AND THAT is what I see happening.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    I donít see them pirates going anywhere, the Capt will be freed and the ransom wonít be paid.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    No like I said, there are 4 pirates. Lets trade four bullets placed in the fourheads of the pirates for the hostage. Im sure we have four sharp shooters who could accomplish this with ease.

    Keep in mind the dingy is dead in the water in calm seas.
    I agree with the assessment of ending this hostage situation with a swift and immediate response.

    There's got to be something we are not being told, or that we are missing in this puzzle. Normally the pirates would have their heads neatly painted with their neighbor's brains....
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    I donít see them pirates going anywhere, the Capt will be freed and the ransom wonít be paid.
    Based on what?

    I'm basing my outlook on Obama's actions to this point, you are basing yours on faith.

    I just don't see Obama letting himself be cornered by a massacre (which is what it would be if the Navy used force to stop the pirates, they cannot withstand our military) and thus the bloodless way out is "negotiations".
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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