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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I can think of a dozen reasons why it's a bad idea to allow private citizens to commit murder for hire. But of course, logic has always been beyond your understanding.



    So the SEALS just committed murder? Is this your position?

    Please list your "dozen reasons".




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    Quote Originally Posted by Willrockwell
    This signature I'm using is more than a joke, I believe it could be the solution against pirate attacks. Imagine if every ship cruising Somalian waters carried a military trained, freelance sniper.
    So what is your opinion again?
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So the SEALS just committed murder? Is this your position?
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    Are SEALS private citizens? I didn't know that

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Are SEALS private citizens? I didn't know that



    So it's murder when a civillian does it, but not when seals do it, but you are for civillians acting as snipers on ships.


    Please, your all over the map.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So it's murder when a civillian does it, but not when seals do it, but you are for civillians acting as snipers on ships.


    Please, your all over the map.
    The crew of a ship is permitted to defend themselves with firearms. A guard hired by the ship would be considered part of the crew. That's different from allowing a boat full of gunmen to roam on their own, looking for a fight.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    The crew of a ship is permitted to defend themselves with firearms.

    Actually under current maritime practices due to insurance, laws, and countries port laws, they are not.


    A guard hired by the ship would be considered part of the crew. That's different from allowing a boat full of gunmen to roam on their own, looking for a fight.

    Oh so we can only defend against pirates. Not attack them for one to be murder and the other not to be. Is this your new position now?
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    Somaliland doesn't have territorial waters.
    Incorrect.

    Somaliland is still known as Somalia and Somalia has territorial waters yes or no?

    When someone enters SOMALI waters, it can be either Somaliland, Puntland or Somalia. It doesn't matter. It is still SOMALI territory.


    Oh and i don't get hysterical, i find that to be a waste of time.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Actually under current maritime practices due to insurance, laws, and countries port laws, they are not.


    Oh so we can only defend against pirates. Not attack them for one to be murder and the other not to be. Is this your new position now?
    Nooooo..... private citizens are not, and should not be allowed to conduct their own killing sprees outside of international law. You disagree?

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Nooooo..... private citizens are not, and should not be allowed to conduct their own killing sprees outside of international law. You disagree?



    Man you change like the breeze....



    So you are now for putting military on private ships now? Do you ever put forth a coherent point?


    So if the military went pirate hunting would that be murder too?


    oh I don't believe in the myth of "international law" I am an American.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Nooooo..... private citizens are not, and should not be allowed to conduct their own killing sprees outside of international law. You disagree?
    Please:
    Specify the 'international law' that covers ship crews killing pirates in defens eof their ship.

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