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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Yeh, the same nonsensical ideological crap you always spout, "Rev". As if you possessed enough insight to second guess the White House. I'm sure your Taliban friends appreciate your zeal in working to bring down the infidel president. Keep up the good work.
    Are you alleging that the Rev is committing treason?
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    This is stunningly surprising coming from you. This has to be a first that I agree with you; bravo!
    Why so surprising?


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What are you cackling about now?


    do you have anything intelligent to say or are you simply trolling me now? Let me know, thanks!
    Not trolling, old man, just exposing your ignorance.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    You've proven nothing but a few incidents. Your statement was:
    And I provided the list of Somali pirating incidents with the demands. All of them have been about money. None political reasons. Do you want to try this again? A few incidents? Please read the source.

    Again, prove it. You can't, so it goes back to you and your uncontrollable outbursts void of any actual facts.
    Prove that they do have political goals.

    [quote[Sure, I love watching you flounder.

    Well, the piracy is going on and according to your earlier statement:

    You seem to have some serious internal conflict with yourself over this issue.

    Please feel free to take a minute to sort out the The John Kerry Syndrome® that you're obviously afflicted with.[/quote]

    Can you prove that the pirates in question do have political goals? If not then please stfu already. I'm tired of your silly Floridiot attacks.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Why so surprising?
    I want the piracy to stop now. [Not that i care for the ships]

    They went from doing what i saw as right to being greedy as hell ... besides, it is affecting Somaliland in a very negative way and that is a no-no for me and enough for me to support anything to stop the pirates atm.
    Last edited by Laila; 04-13-09 at 08:02 PM.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I want the piracy to stop now. [Not that i care for the ships]

    They went from doing what i saw as right to being greedy as hell ... besides, it is affecting Somaliland in a very negative way and that is a no-no for me and enough for me to support anything to stop the pirates atm.
    How in the world could you call what they do "right?" Please explain.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And I provided the list of Somali pirating incidents with the demands. All of them have been about money. None political reasons. Do you want to try this again? A few incidents? Please read the source.
    You've proven nothing in regard to this statement you made here:

    Pirates have no political goals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Prove that they do have political goals.
    The onus is on you to substantiate your bold claim. Try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you prove that the pirates in question do have political goals?
    Again, the onus is on you. I love watching you flounder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If not then please stfu already. I'm tired of your silly Floridiot attacks.
    Translation:

    You can't substantiate your bold claim, so you have yet another uncontrollable outburst, to try and deflect attention away from your feeble attempt to save face here.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    How in the world could you call what they do "right?" Please explain.
    At the beginning, they hijacked ships that entered Somali waters and demanded ransom [and rightly so] as many of them would have been illegally fishing or dumping or having that intention.

    Now they go into hostage taking with the threat of death ... not good.

    I don't mean to sound like someone who cares for the ships, i really don't. I care for Somaliland.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, words do have meanings. And no surprise, when the word with the correect meaning is used and doesn't agree with what you want to rant, rave, and be your typical hyper partisan hysterical irrevelant self about you decide that a different word is fitting.
    The correct meaning because you say it is the correct meaning? The only people ranting here are the typical DP trolls and baiters like you who instead of having a coherent debate play the tired old bash the poster game with your tired banal claims of “hyper partisan hysterical irrelevance.” Good lord, get a new game already.

    You appear desperate to be the dear leader of baiting trolls. What fascinating selective outrage you have dear leader.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    People are calling these Somali's pirates because that's the word that best suites them. Only hacks trying to turn this into a typical bull**** escapade which is so typical of your kind of bottom feeders of political discourse are trying to label them as "terrorists".
    The only bottom feeding going on here is you, the DP trolls dear leader, and the cabal of baiting trolls that infest this forum with incessant hyper partisan BS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Take your own advise. Words have meaning. These are not terrorists. Show any PROOF that these Somali Pirates have any ties that show they're raiding ships is to finance terrorist activities.
    I have a better idea, why don’t you show any proof where their activities are NOT?

    I never made the claim that they are raiding ships to finance terrorist activities; I am setting forth the hypothesis that this is more than some small band of “pirates” just trying to make a living and that it quite possibly IS helping to finance a rogue regime.

    I am suggesting that the efforts to call this “piracy” is merely an attempt to ignore the fact that the Somali Government is doing NOTHING to stop this terrorism and that bands of thugs riding around in small boats armed with AK-47s and RPGs is more than piracy, it is outright war on peaceful shipping and terrorism.

    The definition of terrorism surely does fit and I posted it so that uniformed moderator trolls like you who go around thumping their chests in a campaign of lunacy about of “hyper partisan hysterical irrelevance” could properly comprehend its meaning. I see in your case it was for not.

    The world will not solve this problem as long as they bury their heads in the sand and pretend this is not a BIGGER problem by calling this simply “piracy.” But alas, why the hell should you care to debate the merits of my arguments when you can play the dear leader of the trolls, thump your chest and spew your banal insults.

    Carry on; your clown like baiting, selective outrage and attempts to be the dear leader of the forum trolls has been noted.
    Last edited by Truth Detector; 04-13-09 at 08:37 PM.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    At the beginning, they hijacked ships that entered Somali waters and demanded ransom [and rightly so] as many of them would have been illegally fishing or dumping or having that intention.
    I seriously doubt that considering a country's territorial waters only extend 12 miles from the coast. The horizon is about 60 miles out which means just because you see a ship doesn't mean they have violated your territory. In the case of fishing, it's possible that the fishermen are violating Somalia's EEZ, in which case the correct response is to escort the boat away, not hold it for ransom.

    Now they go into hostage taking with the threat of death ... not good.
    The threat of death has been implied since the beginning.

    I don't mean to sound like someone who cares for the ships, i really don't. I care for Somaliland.
    So you don't care about the crew or property rights?

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