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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And what if the pirates just move?
    Well, if they move inland to get away from naval bombardment that rather resolves the problem, doesn't it? Can't be a pirate when you're not on the ocean.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Since any idiot can see this logic, I have a feeling the president is already on top of it.


    Obama announced they were going to "interdict" and "prosecute".... This is treating it like a police action, not doing what is neccessary to stop it.


    You just called Obama an idiot.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    -- What's not fine is to be silent on the larger issue that the Somalis need to stop being pirates, or it will end badly for them. The stakes need to be raised in this game; the Somalis figure they have a winning hand in this --
    Some of the pirates are simply thieves - no better than that, some have been driven to it by the loss of fishing grounds and toxic waste damage stopping them living their usual lives. Then there's also the complete failure of the "state" of Somalia produce a Govt that can operate in a civilised or organised manner. The solutions to this go beyond mere military action - however showing that the US can act ruthlessly to rescue its own sends a serious message.

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    If I read in the very near future of some nice strafing runs on pirate villages I will change my mind.
    The pirates are robbers... strafing villages is completely over the top.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia



    Get out the popcorn people, we are in for a show.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Obama announced they were going to "interdict" and "prosecute".... This is treating it like a police action, not doing what is neccessary to stop it.


    You just called Obama an idiot.
    "Interdict" and "prosecute" are used by the military as synonyms for engage/destroy/kill.

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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by BulletWounD View Post
    "Interdict" and "prosecute" are used by the military as synonyms for engage/destroy/kill.




    We will see. I hope you are right.
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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Trouble with that is they are not terrorists, they are pirates; they’re in it mainly for the money, ideology comes in a distant second, if at all.
    REALLY??? They are pirates? So what makes them pirates and NOT terrorists? Do they fly the skull and crossbones from their pirate ships? Do the say, “arrrrgggggh matey” when they charge aboard the ships they are "pirating?"

    I find the media distortions about what these people are quite amusing. Folks, these are TERRORISTS. Suggesting that they are pirates requires the willing suspension of disbelief.

    How do I know they are terrorists? Because they terrorize shipping that comes within 15 miles of their shores with RPGs and AK-47s and hold the ships and their crews hostage to finance their terrorist activities.

    Now, I may be open to the argument that they could be organized crime; but based on their targets, it would be a hard sell to me.

    So this begs the question; why is everyone in the media trying to re-define what a terrorist is? Why make the absurd statement that these terrorists are "pirates?"

    This is the same absurdity the mainstream media uses to call anything that remotely resembles a military weapon "assault weapon." But the true definition of an "assault weapon" requires that the weapon have selective fire from semi-auto to full auto. The call them "assault weapons" in a desperate effort to lump legal weapons into the illegal weapon category to promote their anti-gun agenda; much like they attempt to call terrorism nothing more than piracy.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I expect all of you folks that were bashing Obama to now say "Job Well Done Sir!"
    I don't mind saying US Navy job well done; but thank Obama? Why? What did Obama do except give the correct order; that in the event the American citizen is seen to be at risk, act?

    One lesson learned about TERRORISTS, three head shots does the job.


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You clearly don't understand presidential responsibility. By "just saying yes", Obama accepted responsibility for the deaths of these pirates. He exercised his authority to become judge, jury and by extension, executioner. Most of us will never face that kind of pressure, but it's his job to deal with it every day. And so far, I'd say he's doing a pretty good job.
    OMG he accepted responsibility for killing three Somali terrorists holding an American hostage; here let me illustrate how hard that is to do, "guys, make it head shots because we can't take them into custody because I am closing Gitmo and have no where better to hold them."

    Here's the BIGGER question; will he also then accept responsibility when Somali terrorists carry out their threats to start specifically targeting Americans for this act?


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    Re: Obama declines comment on US hostage crisis off Somalia

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    The pirates are robbers... strafing villages is completely over the top.
    Only if the villagers tell the pirates to leave. They haven't so it's not.

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