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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because the impoverished have nothing else to turn to than violence-- I suppose.
    The garbage has nothing but themselves to blame. We were there to feed them and to stand them upright and they returned the world's good will with violence and mayhem. The strong man rules parts of Africa because the weak remain divided and afraid.

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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The last time a US ship was hijacked was more than 200 years ago. Our response was the Tripolitan War. After we kicked ass on those pirates, they did not hijack another American ship again.

    The "Barbary Pirates Wars" is a matter of Marine Corps History. It went from 1801-1815. The history is quite interesting. Although Britian, France, and Spain had strong enough navies to protect their shipping, they were fully occupied with the Napoleanic Wars (more of the same internal European civil strife the world is used to seeing). Instead they bought off the pirates with annual bribes (suprised?). Guess who couldn't afford that? The new United States of America! We refused to pay tribute and wound up seeing American hostages taken. President Jefferson stated, "Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!" Eventually we ventured into the world to protect our own.

    Lt. Presley O'Bannon (famous in our history) and six other Marines trudged six hundred miles across the desert and managed to convince some 400 locals along the way to join and fight the pirate stronghold and they defeated them in the end. From this event... "....From the Shores of Tripoli" entered the Marine Corps Hymn. And the "Mameluke Sword" (the sword the Marine officer stills carries to this day) waxs presented to O'Bannon by Hamet, the exiled brother of the Bey of Tripoli.

    Flash forward some 200 hundred years later to the year 2008 and we see so much of the same history repeating. Every nation is more than willing to deal with their individual issues with these pirates out of this region and willing to wait for somebody else to do the dirty work. And that somebody else is again the United States of America. We will eventually wind up doing what is in our best interest and wreck the home ports of these present day pirates and the rest of the world will benefit from our sweat and blood. The only difference will be that we will toss our "friends" a small less significant portion of the effort and call it an international effort. And those that don't participate will simply benefit from our actions while complaining and criticizing us for doing it for oursleves.

    Quite historical and lesson intensive isn't it?

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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    So far Obama is doing exactly what I would have expected from him.
    A Carter Re-run.
    I don't expect him to do this. I expect him to do his diplomatic BS job until the hostage is released and then unleash holy terror upon specified targets as a warning and retribution. Nothing has deterred "the enemy" from harming American citizens than a good show of violence and display that we can get to anybody.

    ........There is a reason that Americans are the least messed with in these backwards nations. "Revenge" and lesson enforcement is something we do well when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm sure the rest of their pirate brood are swearing their names for crossing the line.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    I don't expect him to do this. I expect him to do his diplomatic BS job until the hostage is released and then unleash holy terror upon specified targets as a warning and retribution. Nothing has deterred "the enemy" from harming American citizens than a good show of violence and display that we can get to anybody.

    ........There is a reason that Americans are the least messed with in these backwards nations. "Revenge" and lesson enforcement is something we do well when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm sure the rest of their pirate brood are swearing their names for crossing the line.
    While I hope you are right I just dont see that happening. We are becoming a nation of cowards just lke the europeans that so many people in this country admire. I feel that our Goverments most important job is to protect our citizens. Every person that had anything to do with this needs to die. Let that be our lesson. The time for talk ended when they took a hostage.

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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    ....because we are the world's policeman and it is our duty to make sure the rest of the world gets its diapers changed on a regular basis? Aren't we criticized and accused of pretending to be the world's policeman? Aren't we told by our "friends" that we should poke our noses into world affairs less? After all, the real threat to global peace is America; haven't you heard?

    With the American Navy floating around the world guarding all the major shipping lanes and patrolling the oceans for American protection, maybe the glorious French..or China...or Russia...or Germany could do for the rest of the world "no matter what flag they fly" for a change.

    I found it hugely ironic how the world jumped on the "I hate America" band wagon for years over a damn dictator we were supposed to continue falling over for and now looks towards America to solve yet another global issue for them. And if we do as the US Sailors and Marines did to the Barabary Pirates 200 years ago then we will merely be scoffed at for doing it for ourselves no matter how much the rest benefit under our wing.
    It is American interests that were hit this time, so yes, America needs to get involved, and deliver another ass kicking to pirates on the high seas. Seems that they have forgotten the lesson we gave them a little over 200 years ago.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    I don't expect him to do this. I expect him to do his diplomatic BS job until the hostage is released and then unleash holy terror upon specified targets as a warning and retribution. Nothing has deterred "the enemy" from harming American citizens than a good show of violence and display that we can get to anybody.

    ........There is a reason that Americans are the least messed with in these backwards nations. "Revenge" and lesson enforcement is something we do well when the cameras aren't rolling. I'm sure the rest of their pirate brood are swearing their names for crossing the line.
    Here's to hoping that happens.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Remember the recapture of the USS Philidelphia by the first US Marines. The Philidelphia had been captured and its crew taken hostage. The crew was removed from the ship and taken to Tripoli. The Marines recaptured the ship which had run aground in the harbor then set fire to the ship so the muslem jihadist pirates could not use it against us. After this they went ashore and capturied the city of Tripoli. This took place on Febuary 16, 1804.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHurt View Post
    The money spent on boats and guns could have been used to start a legitimate business with an inventory.
    Really?

    What entrepreneurship in Sudan is doing well...

    I mean, besides Pirating.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    The garbage has nothing but themselves to blame. We were there to feed them and to stand them upright and they returned the world's good will with violence and mayhem. The strong man rules parts of Africa because the weak remain divided and afraid.
    And I wholeheartedly agree.

    The fact of the matter is that the African world's mindset does not work like that of the Euro-Centric's. Studies have shown that they are a good amount different in terms of learning and understanding. They may not understand the terms that one might use to comprise "civility", though I am fairly hesitant to use that word.
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