"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
Why do people use poverty as an excuse to justify piracy?
Somalia is a non-functioning state. Nobody that wants a positive ROI would invest in that "country". If you want to nation build, petition Obama for an authorization force to clean up the region, otherwise, we should arm the cargo ships and increase USN patrols across the Horn of Africa.
"I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann
You can give that as a reason. It doesn't make it right. That's what I'm trying to say.
Yes I recall Clinton using the attacks by a warlords(forget his name atm) forces and of all things al-Qaeda as his excuse to run out of Somalia.You'll recall the Clinton Somali Affair in Mogadishu in 1993.
They made a movie about it.
Osama likes to mention it often as proof that the US is weak willed.
So far Obama is doing exactly what I would have expected from him.
A Carter Re-run.
Last edited by Triad; 04-09-09 at 05:00 PM.
The last time a US ship was hijacked was more than 200 years ago. Our response was the Tripolitan War. After we kicked ass on those pirates, they did not hijack another American ship again.
Here's how we do it:
1) After this incident plays out, we keep sending merchant ships through the area. This is the bait.
2) We also deploy submarines that these pirates cannot see. As soon as the big ship lets loose the smaller pirate boats, torpedoes away, sinking the mother ship, with all crew aboard.
3) As for the small boats that have been let loose by the larger ship (that is now at the bottom of the ocean), the sub can surface, and the crew can have a little target practice fun, machine gunning anything still on the surface that is moving.
4) Piracy ends.
Last edited by danarhea; 04-09-09 at 08:11 PM.
The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016
How about putting a few drones in the air in the area where the pirates seem to come from.
The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say
With the American Navy floating around the world guarding all the major shipping lanes and patrolling the oceans for American protection, maybe the glorious French..or China...or Russia...or Germany could do for the rest of the world "no matter what flag they fly" for a change.
I found it hugely ironic how the world jumped on the "I hate America" band wagon for years over a damn dictator we were supposed to continue falling over for and now looks towards America to solve yet another global issue for them. And if we do as the US Sailors and Marines did to the Barabary Pirates 200 years ago then we will merely be scoffed at for doing it for ourselves no matter how much the rest benefit under our wing.
Last edited by MSgt; 04-09-09 at 10:20 PM.