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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by kmtina View Post
    Here's my concern: Why hasn't President Obama issued some kind of statement expressing outrage about an American ship being attacked by pirates and an American captain being held hostage? He could have at least expressed sympathy for the family of the hostage.

    What a sickening lack of leadership. Is he afraid of offending the pirates? Does he think the most powerful country in the world might one day need the help of the failed state of Somalia? Is this part of his "we're not at war with Islam" thing? Are we sending a message that this behavior is acceptable or that the president just doesn't notice? Is this like the AIG bonuses where he just needs some time to think about it first? If anyone else is mad about this, I suggest going to the White House website and sending an email about it. I'm not a Bush fan but at least he would have said something.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Why do people use poverty as an excuse to justify piracy?

    Somalia is a non-functioning state. Nobody that wants a positive ROI would invest in that "country". If you want to nation build, petition Obama for an authorization force to clean up the region, otherwise, we should arm the cargo ships and increase USN patrols across the Horn of Africa.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by rapier7 View Post
    Why do people use poverty as an excuse to justify piracy?

    Somalia is a non-functioning state. Nobody that wants a positive ROI would invest in that "country". If you want to nation build, petition Obama for an authorization force to clean up the region, otherwise, we should arm the cargo ships and increase USN patrols across the Horn of Africa.
    Because the impoverished have nothing else to turn to than violence-- I suppose.
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    You can give that as a reason. It doesn't make it right. That's what I'm trying to say.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    You'll recall the Clinton Somali Affair in Mogadishu in 1993.

    They made a movie about it.
    Yes I recall Clinton using the attacks by a warlords(forget his name atm) forces and of all things al-Qaeda as his excuse to run out of Somalia.
    Osama likes to mention it often as proof that the US is weak willed.



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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by kmtina View Post
    Here's my concern: Why hasn't President Obama issued some kind of statement expressing outrage about an American ship being attacked by pirates and an American captain being held hostage? He could have at least expressed sympathy for the family of the hostage.

    What a sickening lack of leadership. Is he afraid of offending the pirates? Does he think the most powerful country in the world might one day need the help of the failed state of Somalia? Is this part of his "we're not at war with Islam" thing? Are we sending a message that this behavior is acceptable or that the president just doesn't notice? Is this like the AIG bonuses where he just needs some time to think about it first? If anyone else is mad about this, I suggest going to the White House website and sending an email about it. I'm not a Bush fan but at least he would have said something.
    Thank you for saying that. I figure someone will be along shortly to dismiss you as an Obama hater or partisan hack. Obama's silence has been typical Obama - over his head. I have a friend who was wondering if Obama's going to apologize to the pirates and send them a boxed set of Sex and the City - The First Season on Dvd. Or maybe a block buster gift card.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because the impoverished have nothing else to turn to than violence-- I suppose.
    The money spent on boats and guns could have been used to start a legitimate business with an inventory.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    The last time a US ship was hijacked was more than 200 years ago. Our response was the Tripolitan War. After we kicked ass on those pirates, they did not hijack another American ship again.

    Here's how we do it:

    1) After this incident plays out, we keep sending merchant ships through the area. This is the bait.

    2) We also deploy submarines that these pirates cannot see. As soon as the big ship lets loose the smaller pirate boats, torpedoes away, sinking the mother ship, with all crew aboard.

    3) As for the small boats that have been let loose by the larger ship (that is now at the bottom of the ocean), the sub can surface, and the crew can have a little target practice fun, machine gunning anything still on the surface that is moving.

    4) Piracy ends.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    How about putting a few drones in the air in the area where the pirates seem to come from.
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    Re: U.S. Navy Arrives at Scene of Hijacked American Ship

    Quote Originally Posted by rapier7 View Post
    The USN needs to increase patrols along the Horn of Africa. It's a major shipping lane and we have the largest of the handful of blue water navies still operational.

    We need to deal these pirates a blow, and make sure that no ships, regardless of the flag they fly, get attacked by these cowardly assholes.
    ....because we are the world's policeman and it is our duty to make sure the rest of the world gets its diapers changed on a regular basis? Aren't we criticized and accused of pretending to be the world's policeman? Aren't we told by our "friends" that we should poke our noses into world affairs less? After all, the real threat to global peace is America; haven't you heard?

    With the American Navy floating around the world guarding all the major shipping lanes and patrolling the oceans for American protection, maybe the glorious French..or China...or Russia...or Germany could do for the rest of the world "no matter what flag they fly" for a change.

    I found it hugely ironic how the world jumped on the "I hate America" band wagon for years over a damn dictator we were supposed to continue falling over for and now looks towards America to solve yet another global issue for them. And if we do as the US Sailors and Marines did to the Barabary Pirates 200 years ago then we will merely be scoffed at for doing it for ourselves no matter how much the rest benefit under our wing.
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