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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    I think that Q-boats would be the best strategy to stopping the piracy. Simply put a number of soldiers in otherwise normal cargo ships. Sail them in Somali waters, and give the pirates a nice surprise when they show up. It would be much cheaper than deploying the fleet, and probably much
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think you will see a marked difference between the way George Bush handled pirates and the response of the Obama administration. Bush never had a "firm hand", he was playing at soldiers with real people. I have no doubt Obama will demonstrate the cost of seizing Americans on the high seas. The answer is simple, historic, and can be expressed in one word.

    Marines.
    As cold as it sounds, RH's idea of hitting the pirate's bases (and by extension, unfortunately, the villagers within them) probably makes the most sense. You simply can't successfully patrol that large an area for pirates unless you plan on committing all your resources to the campaign.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think you're wrong, but we'll know very soon.

    I hope Im wrong, but Im not expecting anything. Theyll probably be imprisoned or executed.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I think that Q-boats would be the best strategy to stopping the piracy. Simply put a number of soldiers in otherwise normal cargo ships. Sail them in Somali waters, and give the pirates a nice surprise when they show up. It would be much cheaper than deploying the fleet, and probably much
    more effective.


    Can't. I believe maritime treaties forbid civillian ships from being armed or something.
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    there is a reason ships fly a countries flag. You know that right?
    Irrelevant. The overwhelming majority of those who have paid ransoms are the companies that own the ships. I can't even think of a government paying the ransom.
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Irrelevant. The overwhelming majority of those who have paid ransoms are the companies that own the ships. I can't even think of a government paying the ransom.



    You are right, the ransom is irrelevant. It is however relevant how ships flying the US flags are respected.


    Dropping a few JDAMs on boomtown mansions will solve this problem for us and keep our ships safe and pirate free.
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    It was actually a Danish ship, it was just crewed by Americans.

    Nevertheless, I think it's an American issue and I hope Obama uses it as a pretext (one that he can sell politically) for dealing with the pirates with a stronger hand that has been done i the past (by both past American administrations and the rest of the world).

    What i'd do is mine the waters around the pirate ports.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No American ship, not our problem. American ship. Our problem.

    Any questions?



    3rd request. What was your point in bringing up Bush.


    What did you mean by "Another problem handed on from Bush"
    Um...cause it's true? But look, I can see this is making you really emotional, so I'll just drop it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Nope. I see it more as a problem for europe, east aisia, and africa to handle. Until you touch our ships.
    Well, that long-term approach sure worked out swell, and I'm sure the 21 American hostages appreciate it.

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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    It was actually a Danish ship, it was just crewed by Americans.

    Nevertheless, I think it's an American issue and I hope Obama uses it as a pretext (one that he can sell politically) for dealing with the pirates with a stronger hand that has been done i the past (by both past American administrations and the rest of the world).

    What i'd do is mine the waters around the pirate ports.



    "In a statement, the company later confirmed that the US-flagged vessel has 20 Americans onboard."

    Somali Pirates Seize US Cargo Ship Off Horn Of Africa | World News | Sky News
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    Re: Somali pirates seize ship; 21 Americans aboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Um...cause it's true? But look, I can see this is making you really emotional, so I'll just drop it.

    yes, emotional. I am laughing at you.


    How did bush "hand" this problem to Obama?


    Well, that long-term approach sure worked out swell, and I'm sure the 21 American hostages appreciate it.

    The next 21 will if Obama does what needs to be done.
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